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A Response to the Action of the Pacific Union Conference Constituency Meeting on Sunday, August 19, 2012

http://www.adventistreview.org/article/5625/archives/issue-2012-152...

 

The 17 million members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church are united through the Holy Spirit in a common commitment to Christ and the truths of His Word, an urgent end-time mission, and a divinely inspired church organization. A threat to any one of these places at risk the unity of the church. It is for this reason that the leadership of the Seventh-day Adventist Church affirms the Pacific Union’s action not to change their Constitution and remain in harmony with the world church. This represents a step in a positive direction. The General Conference leadership is seriously concerned, though, with the Pacific Union’s subsequent action to preempt the collective decisions of the world church regarding ordination. Unilateral actions contrary to the voted decisions of the global church seriously threaten the unity of the church.

The world church recognizes the vital role that women play in the life, ministry and leadership of the church and encourages their active involvement. Because the General Conference Administrative Committee has already voted and commenced the most comprehensive study in our history on the subject of ordination, which will include the study of the ordination of women, the action of the Pacific Union to grant Ministerial Ordination “without respect to gender” preempts the process voted for the current study of ordination theology and practices by committing the Pacific Union Conference to a particular outcome before the study-and-discussion process is completed. It also expresses a lack of trust in the integrity of the general process accepted and voted by General Conference administrators and personnel, division officers, and pastors and lay members from all the world divisions who serve on the General Conference Executive Committee, which includes the presidents of the 125 unions representing the world church, regarding how we approach common challenges.

Further, the action is contrary to General Conference Working Policy and sets aside the 1990 and 1995 decisions of the General Conference in Session respecting the practice of ordination. The action taken by the Pacific Union Conference represents a serious threat to the unity of the worldwide Seventh-day Adventist Church, and thus, at its next meeting in October 2012, as indicated in another recent public statement by General Conference officers and division presidents, the General Conference Executive Committee will carefully review the situation and determine how to respond. In the spirit of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the officers of the General Conference appeal to all entities, organizations, and individuals, including the Pacific Union Conference, to refrain from independent and unilateral decisions and from implementing any such actions.

It is our prayer that the “oneness” Jesus prayed for in His great intercessory prayer in John 17, and that which the disciples experienced in Acts 2, will be manifest in His church today. We pray that the result of this “oneness” will be lives transformed by His grace, united in His love, and empowered by His Spirit to proclaim His last-day message in all of its fullness to a perishing planet, hastening the glorious return of our Lord.


Ted N. C. Wilson, President
General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists


G. T. Ng, Secretary
General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists


Robert E. Lemon, Treasurer
General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists

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Please people, don't argue with each other or call names or misunderstand what someone is saying. We are supposed to love one another...not argue and be nasty just because people see things differently. Please don't do this anymore. These personal disagreements etc amongst brothers and sisters lead to bad things....please..in Jesus name.

@Alli - thanks for the above comment. its so true - why cant people just state what they believe in and not pick on others who disagree with them. We can say what we believe in eg by saying - This is what I believe... but I respect your views! 

I do agree like you - it is not being Christian - behaving like this - picking on others here in discussions! I am sure God will not be happy about this!!

Hey Irene....people do this kind of thing in this forum...how do they behave to each other..albeit different people..in their church discussions. I have heard about rough board meetings etc...and now even in my own church yesterday..2 men resorted to punching each other to bits in the church service i think it was...blood was spilled..people were crying and many were upset. I wasn't there..but......

Satan is loving all of our disagreements..he loves seeing people being not nice to each other just because they have different opinions and different reasons for having them. It is so easy to get personal...

But, if we cannot practice how Jesus tells us to behave here and in church...for those of us like me who has a lot of trouble with using bad words etc.....then how on earth can we hope to become better people.

I need places like this to learn to love and care about others.....I need my church to show that....I need both to help me clean up my act and to change my behaviour.

It is so easy to act not according to how Jesus wants us to....it takes courage etc to totally try to change to do something that is not really in our nature.

It does not take much for people to belittle others..either in inference or word and deed....

It is better we learn now...or fall later when the beast starts disagreeing with us..and we with the beast.

Irene,

Thank you for the post. What do you believe about WOPE, Sunday worship or the gay agenda? i'm afraid the issue is not lack of statements about what people believe. Those opposed to WOPE have stated their stand and quoted Bible verses backing their stand. Those supporting WOPE have also stated their stand. What is in contention is the fact that WOPE proponents have been campaigning for support n AO and Spectrum without biblical or SOP support. When asked to back up their claims, they have meandered, twisted things and accused people of all sorts of things. In the process, anti-WOPE persons have also done the same. So a post like yours calling on everyone to stop "behaving like this" and stop "picking on others" is neither here nor there.

So, thanks for telling us to stop misbehaving. Now that we agree on that (hopefully), would you take a step back from the din and help take the issue forward? I'm against WOPE for the simple reason that I've read Bible verses for male ordination and not seen even one for WOPE. Would you help me understand the basis of WOPE then?

Sister Teresa, let Irene speak for herself. The purpose is to know her opinion and the basis for it. I'm afraid your comment about hate only fills the topic with hate and a judgmental attitude. Irene is not jumping into the fray now because I've asked her a question. The fact that she posted means she cares about this issue. Please try and be civil.

Could be. Teresa falsely claimed I was dragging her into the topic.

Thanks for the response. I'll let it rest.

Good call Alli M. I'm just wondering if at the Diet of Worms any of the Catholic archbishops and bishops would have thought Martin Luther was calling them names and not loving them. I imagine the pope probably thought it was nasty to post 95 theses on the door of a church! And Martin Luther was getting personal, leading to bad things! Just a thought.

Dan


LOL  Well said!

 

Ray

There were so many comments to wade through, so I apologize if this has already been said. If the GC decides not to ordain women as pastors, this will be a double edge sword. Are the SDA colleges and universities going to continue to educate women through their divinity programs only to have the GC say, "Yes, our schools took your money, but you can't work for us." This will be some lawyer's dream case! The GC has a lot to think about.

That is the issue for you.  The Seventh-day Adventist Church has decided that women can be pastors, based on scripture and can become ordained elders based on scripture. For those who continue in this message until Jesus comes, as a SDA Christian, it is--and these policies will not repealed.  

Correction:  The women did have the same ministerial license as the men.  It was also the time of women's suffrage and women's rights.  The entire culture was shifting to actually value a woman's role as being more than just property.

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