I have been looking at supposed SDA online sites. Unfortunately I am getting more and more confused with who is who..now I find this guy teaching a 2520 prophecy..and yep..by all accounts he is an SDA layman.
How many more are amongst us? Do you ever think you are reading an SDA site when in fact it's not of our teaching?
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Obviously, you do not really understand what these parallels are. We do not derive from them what you do. You're drawing conclusions that we do not draw and putting words into our mouths that we do not even think. Jeff does not put himself as any more important than anyone else. I am not a follower of Jeff's nor do I know anyone who is. No one said that the SDA organisation ended in 1989. The Seventh-day Adventist Church is God's Church period. This is what Jeff teaches and those who return to the old paths teaches. In 1989 we believe that the PARALLEL to the Millerite movement began; that Millerite history is being repeated in the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
Theodore, what is 1989 End of modern day Israel'/SDA? Who or what came to an end?
Abdool, The parallel repeats. In my understanding of Daniel 11:40-45, The time of the end began when the Pope was taken captive by France. That is the King of the south "pushed" the king of the north. In 1989 the king of the north came against the king of the south when the US and the Papacy combined to over-throw the Soviet Union. We don't have time to discuss all the details here but for this discussion, at least, we can see that Jeff sees a repeat of history. This is completely separate from the idea that the 2520 is a prophetic period. I have a friend who has been teaching the 2520 since 1989, based upon his personal study, long before Jeff ever taught it. Personally, I think that Jeff is wrong about some things and he would admit that himself. He has been wrong many times and he will continue to be wrong. Fortunately, he is teachable and seems to be getting many more things right than he has in the past.
I appreciate what you wrote, but you have not answered my question.What is 1989 End of modern day Israel'/SDA? Who or what came to an end?
Are you saying that Jeff is wrong in this point?
Nothing came to an end. The parallel begins to repeat here, that is all.
But the chart says "End of Modern day Israel/SDA".
Who or what is modern day Israel/SDA?
What is their END?
You will need to see Jeff's presentation. All I can tell you is that it does NOT mean that the Seventh-day Adventist Church ends in 1989 and is replaced by Jeff's movement.
This type of objection reminds me of those who reject Adventism because we make Satan our saviour with him being the scapegoat or we teach Christ was a created being because we believe Michael is Christ, etc.
it seems you are hiding something. If you disagree with Jeff on this point, please say so. If you do not understand what he means by 1989 end of modern day Israel/SDA, then let us know. We only want your honesty
I am not hiding anything. Both Jeff and I do not see that the Seventh-day Adventist Church came to any kind of end in 1989. This is merely a parallel. You need to see Jeff's presentation. You are putting words into his mouth. Maybe the chart is not clear. I have seen Jeff write this out many times. He in no way implies that the church changed in 1989.
Jeff Pippenger issaying some tenuous things. Your answer is found here Abdool7