After participating in this blog for some time I have been in communication with SDA;s who seem to believe that Sunday Keeping Christians are currently lost. This is not the position of the current SDA church, but I was wondering what people think in this forum.
Traditionally, Adventists have taught there will be a time before the Second Advent in which the message of the Ten Commandments and in particular the keeping of the seventh day of the week, Saturday, as Sabbath will be conveyed to the whole world. Protestants and Catholics will unite to enforce legislation requiring the observance of Sunday worship. In reference to the creation of an Image to the Beast Revelation 13-17, Ellen G. White stated:
"When the leading churches of the United States, uniting on such points of doctrines as are held by them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions; then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result." -Great Controversy p. 445
Since there is currently no Sunday Law, are Sunday keepers in our day lost?
You just answered your question. Clues: 'when' and 'there will be a time'
BTW I have not heard of such; no SDA believe such
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You have a habit of speaking for the whole church. I have the inmpression thatt some SDAs are confused about thjs issue.
As last years Easter Egg if they know it is wrong and do it anyway.
Not quite sure what you mean.
To knowingly live in disobedience all the while calling Him 'Lord" doesn't equal conversion. That's what he means.
didnt get that, easter egg?
If something is as lost as last year's Easter Egg, it is unrecoverable. It is an expression of speech. Rural folks tend have lots of creative expressions. For instance, I knew a man who described his happiness like the following: "I am like a fat chick at the Prom. I am just happy to be here."
Or, one of mine about being kept in the dark. "They treat me like a mushroom. They put me in the basement and cover me with bull manure."
Maybe one you might have heard before. "That's fine than frog hair." Or, perhaps, "As rare as hen's teeth."
Or maybe to describe a very loose woman. "She's like a door knob, everyone gets a turn."
Thanks for the clairifiation Heisenburg. So that means you believe that sunday keepers aee lost?2
If they keep Sunday and know it is wrong, and continue doing it, very much so.
Would that include the disobedience of forbid not to speak in tongues, or I would that ye all spake in tongues, and that ye may all prophesy? While calling Him "Lord."
No one can really say that He is Lord but by the holy spirit. Now, I am not condemning anyone who doesn't speak in tongues, but it is food for thought that Jesus and Paul both agree that believers should speak in new tongues!
Yes, some SDA's believe that Sunday Keeping Christians are currently lost. Interesting isn't it? I know people that think this way too, and it appears that they believe that we are now in a new "dispensation" (since perhaps the 1950's).
But in our early days, things were being said that destroyed the "Sunday-keeper is lost" view.
"At present Sunday-keeping is NOT the test." (Maranatha p.177, written in 1911.)
"No one has yet received the mark of the beast. The testing time has not yet come. There are true Christians in every church, not excepting the Roman Catholic communion." (Maranatha p.211)
Even to SDA workers in the Southern Sates it was said,
"On Sunday there is the very best opportunity for those who are missionaries to hold Sunday schools [!], and come to the people in the simplest manner possible, telling them of the love of Jesus for sinners and educating them in the Scriptures." (Southern Work p.68 (1895))
That this was said to zealous SDA's seems quite wonderful to me!
Obviously it was said in a specific setting/context, but still, quite wonderful in my view.