Are we in danger of being deceived?
Are Adventists in danger of being deceived in exactly the same way as the Jews were deceived when Jesus came the first time? They didn't recognise Him as Son of the living God. They were masters at keeping the law, but did they really know who they worshipped?
Adventists are very good at Sabbath keeping, but the Sabbath is a sign, it's not the destination. Do we really know who we worship? Might we be in serious danger of receiving the mark of the beast while we concentrate on when we worship and not who?
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Permalink Reply by Dan on
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Andrew, it is good to know you are ministering to JWs. Praise God! The truth about God is not premised on how many people we are able to convince but on how true we are to the revealed word. Our duty is to call people to believe in the one true God, and Jesus Christ, whom He has sent (John 17:3), not a trinity doctrine.
EG White actually warns us on this very matter of how human language clothes the Holy Spirit. She calls them "spiritualistic representations".
"I am instructed to say, The sentiments of those who are searching for advanced scientific ideas are not to be trusted. Such representations as the following are made: “The Father is as the light invisible: the Son is as the light embodied; the Spirit is the light shed abroad.” “The Father is like the dew, invisible vapor; the Son is like the dew gathered in beauteous form; the Spirit is like the dew fallen to the seat of life.” Another representation: “The Father is like the invisible vapor; the Son is like the leaden cloud; the Spirit is rain fallen and working in refreshing power.”
All these spiritualistic representations are simply nothingness. They are imperfect, untrue. They weaken and diminish the Majesty which no earthly likeness can be compared to. God cannot be compared with the things His hands have made. These are mere earthly things, suffering under the curse of God because of the sins of man. The Father cannot be described by the things of earth. The Father is all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and is invisible to mortal sight." Evangelism, 614.
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Permalink Reply by Andrew on
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We are to compare ourselves by the Word of God and the Word of God is God. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
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to the law and to the testimony if they do not speak according to this word it is because there is no light in them.
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Permalink Reply by Prophecy_101 on
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The Bible says
Now THE LORD "IS" THE SPIRIT, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.2 Cor 3:17
So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT. 1 Cor 15:45
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Andrew, your explanation does not prove a trinity at all. It denies that the Son was begotten before time began and even before anything was created. Remember we are told that the FATHER is the only TRUE GOD. Look up the meaning if TRUE there... But unto us there is but ONE GOD THE FATHER. The Son is God for He came out of God... From His very substance. Eve is ADAM for she came from Adam. Watch Stephen Bohr's RISK OF ETERNAL LOSS where he proves from inspiration that the Son was literally begotten. https://youtu.be/fWrHIb_jl0w
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Permalink Reply by Jason M. on
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So if the Father is the only true God then Jesus is a false God right?
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“When Christ first announced to the heavenly host His mission and work in the world, He declared that He was to leave His position of dignity and disguise His holy mission by assuming the likeness of a man, WHEN IN REALITY HE WAS THE SON OF THE INFINITE GOD…{Lt303-1903.14}
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Andrew, note the word REALITY. This was before He took on humanity.
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"CHRIST WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, AND LUCIFER, THAT GLORIOUS ANGEL, GOT UP A WARFARE OVER THE MATTER , until he had to be thrust down to the earth. {Ms86-1910 (August 21, 1910) par. 30}
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THIS FACT THE ANGELS WOULD OBSCURE, THAT CHRIST WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, and they came to consider that they were not to consult Christ... {Lt42-1910.3}
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What does Ellen White say Lucifer got up a warfare over? What does she say is a FACT? There is no suggestion of role playing Father and Son.
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Permalink Reply by Heisenberg on
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This Jew theme is getting tiresome. Israel fell away and was scattered, Judah remained. Israel tried to worship Asherah and Yaweh. The two are incompatible. Now, after the scattering, they have regained part of their homeland. You see as much as those who are grafted in consider themselves more worthy than those who were pruned to make a place for them, they follow in the same prideful footsteps. God's blessings are irrevocable. These are still His people, and He is still reaching out to them. He will always reach out to them. Is it no wonder the world hates them. Because, Satan knows they are still dear to Yashua.
This Jews are irredeemable theme is offensive as saying all black people have received the Mark of Cain. It is equally racist, and equally offensive. Did you know the Florida Conference is full of converted Jews to Adventism. I doubt they would appreciate such epithets directed at them. There is a harvest there, and every Anti-Semitic lesson study or comment in church is offensive. To the point that I was told my children should be gassed by an Anti-Semite at church who soon left after. When I took exception to such comments and they left, their absence was blamed on my family. The father even came by my house uninvited to JUSTIFY those comments as acceptable. This constant theme of Anti-Semitism needs to stop. They are still God's people, and He is still reaching out to them, which the Church smugly views them as the whipping boy to smugly assert their own superiority which flies directly in the face of scripture.
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