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Is it a sin to form friendships with those who smoke? Would that not be a bad influence on us and our families etc.?






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Absolutely I agree! A cigarette smoking warning says: cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health. Our body is God's temple and that we have to take care of it because it's His not ours. Then, if we will abuse our body, we will be lost. Smoking won't do no good to our body. It will just kill and will empty pocket. It's just like you are burning your money whenever you buy cigarette. So, don't be lost!

If you don't want to be lost, overcome it sincerely with the help of the grace of God through prayers and of course coupled with action. Do what you pray for!
No, but cigars? Definitely. :)

Okay, not really... I think it's what's in the heart that matters. I just assume that if someone says that they're a Christian that they are, even if they smoke. It's even easier to assume this when they don't smoke in my face. Or around me. Or within 50 feet of me. Or where I can see them inhaling carcinogens.
Good Thoughts Travis. I agree.

I would add a follow up question:

Is it a sin to form friendships with those who smoke? Would that not be a bad influence on us and our family etc.?
Well, it might be a bad health influence... I think that most people are probably considerate enough to not smoke around non-smoking friends. I would hope so, anyway.

Several members of my extended family smoke, but I just ignore it. I'm never tempted to ask for a cigarette so I can breathe tar too.
I used to work in Home Care and had to go into home of some very heavy smokers. I came home smelling something terrible. My wife would require me to change clothes before she would touch me. And I got sick and had stinging eyes after each experience.

Our prophet had this to say which I am not quite sure how to take:

"But when such ones form companionship with others who give themselves up to cheap conversation, and who indulge in smoking and in liquor drinking, they are lost unless they repent and become converted." Ellen White in 2SAT 286
In response to the first question, "Are you lost if you smoke cigarettes?"

I think Scripture presents an answer, insofar that
"If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are." (1Cor 3:17)

Potentially quite a sensitive area, but I think the principle is expanded and magnified a little bit in the thought --

"Tea, coffee, tobacco, and alcohol we must present as sinful indulgences. We cannot place on the same ground, meat, eggs, butter, cheese, and such articles placed upon the table. These are not to be borne in front, as the burden of our work. The former--tea, coffee, tobacco, beer, wine, and all spirituous liquors--are not to be taken moderately, but discarded." (3SM 287)
The use of "meat, eggs, butter, cheese, etc" will not make a person "lost", but the other things mentioned -- it appears that, yes, the habitual user of those things is indeed "lost".
Well since murderers will be in Heaven ... I have no doubt that smokers will be also.
Oh Yeah. Murderers and Ex-smokers. Wow. What a place praise God.
Sorry N HIm, I cannot think what you are referring to [or perhaps implying] when you mention the murderers. Because aren't murderers included in that number that have a part in the lake of fire?

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Rev 21:8)

And again in Galatians,

"...envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like... as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Gal 5:21)
You don't believe that Bible greats such as David and Moses will be in heaven?
I can offer a thought about the context for the 1Corinthians 3 quote if that's ok.

Briefly, Paul meets the problem of "factions". Some were saying "I am of Paul", others were saying "I am of Apollos [another prominent Christian teacher at the time]." The thought continues about how one person plants and another person waters, etc., but all the workers are "one" -- no-one is better than the other. The inexperienced Christians "are God's husbandry [or garden]". They are also "God's building".

Then Paul effectively says, that if the foundation is laid properly in the new building [and obviously the true foundation in the Christian life is Christ Himself], various ones then "build" on that foundation with a mixture of materials. "Gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble". When we come to the final test, all the rubbish (all the things that won't stand fiery trial) will be burnt away -- the person "shall suffer loss, BUT he himself shall be saved".

Then I believe Paul contrasts this lesson with those teachers that were advocating lose living -- namely, "fornication". THIS was not to be classed among even the rubbish like wood, hay, and stubble, which would effectively be burnt away. Fornication would totally destroy the person. (See 1Cor 6:13-20)

"Fornication", in the immediate context, is the "defilement" that Paul is talking about I believe. So yes, perhaps I have misapplied the verse.


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