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You commit suicide you do not go to heaven 

I do not believe that is biblical Lesie

With all due respect Leslie, only God knows who will go to heaven, we cannot make that judgement. Yes suicide is wrong no one is advocating suicide here, but none of us knows who is going to heaven, we do not know the hearts of man like God does. I will not disrespect God by speaking for him, he is the all knowing not me.God bless you!

@ Timbertwo!  i totally agree with you! thanks for your excellent comment here!! we have no right to answer that they do not go to heaven!

@Leslie - I disagree! Only God knows! please read my other comments! and what if the poor person never got to know God while alive!! its not right for us to say if they go to heaven or hell! i must find that verse asap! its not up to us to say such things - like they will not go to heaven! only God has that right!!

lets look at the bible   S H A L L   W E

instead of looking at people who dont know

 

ELIJAH wanted to die

suicidal depression BIG TIME

 

MOSES was even wanting to forfeit his eternal life for others

 ULTIMATE suicidal prayer driven by love

 

SAMSON told GOD 'LET ME DIE WITH THE PHILLISTINES

suicide with  LETS GET EM!   YEAH !..THOSE FILTHY HEATHEN !!!

 

JESUS let HIS people kill HIM

suicide to SAVE  [ i start singing in a beautiful rich baratone sweeping to first tenor with surprising ease  ..' HE COULD HAVE CAAAAAALLED TEN THOUSAND ANGELS ']

 

do u folks read all those psalms steeped in complaints and depression by david?

yes all but one have praises to GOD and HOPE

there is one psalm with no hope  -                    just saying

 

u can be nitpicky and poke holes all u want but no where does it say SUICIDE

is the unpardonable sin!

dont make up a graceless law based script in the head about it!

 

 

and dont give me that whine about

'well if u commit a sin of killing yourself u cant ask for forgiveness'

 O REALLY?

 JESUS DIED TO SAVE YOU FROM ALL YOUR SINS NOT JUST THE ONES U REMEMBER TO ASK FORGIVENESS FOR!

ALL YOUR SINS ARE COVERED NOT JUST THE ONES U KNOW ABOUT

WE OFFEND OTHERS AND MOCK JESUS TO OTHERS AND DONT EVEN KNOW IT

JESUS COVERS THAT TOO!

in heaven u will figure out the depths and depravity HE saved u from

cause it seems its lost on many here in the here n now

i say that very respectfully and im included!

 

 dont u realize u people sin all the day long

its not every once in awhile like some isolated incedent

 

dont get me started! :P

MFG

At what point in time does someone who commits suicide repent in the dying bed or in the grave??

all death bed repentance is not true repentance and you cannot repent in the grave.

 JESUS DIED TO SAVE YOU FROM ALL YOUR SINS NOT JUST THE ONES U REMEMBER TO ASK FORGIVENESS FOR!

this statement is totally false

There is the book of records and the book of life when someone sin it is written next to their name in the book of life until they repent it remains there.

Re 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

o boy!

 

GOD BLESS YOU

do u know what sin is?

1 everytime u miss the perfect rightouse mark of perfection u sin

2 everytime u dont love JESUS with all your cells

3 everytime u dont come under another and serve without expecting anything in return

 the standards are lofty and unatainable without JESUS PERFECT WORK

 

u and i simply dont remember or recall and dont even realize all the sin we are mucking around

JESUS has it all covered when we accept them

and yes they are all written down

 

alot of people are going to be in heaven without perfection achieved here

 

and Leslie Ann

i used to think like u

GOD SHOWED me a better way!

MFG

Are you for real??

Are you saying that sin will enter heaven a second time??

this is further from the truth if you do not reach perfection here you will never enter heaven.

Mt 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If you believe that people will go to heaven without perfection acheived here then you do not know anything about God nor his plan of salvation.and you need to start backing your words from the Word.

sin entering a second time?

i didnt say that

 

i just realized something

u dont really read and reflect on what i say here about this

i talk about depression and causes and give you real biblical people who will be in heaven who struggle with this very thing!

 

ugh

no no no

u r scarying me

 

thousands die daily and many are christians who will be in heaven

not one is perfect

they are sinners like u

MFG

it looks like you did not read your replies good. No one will be in heaven if there is one jot or one title of unconfessed sin in their life. and that is a thus saith the Lord.

 maybe someone can stand in and make a good old fashioned  biblical appeal to you

 

GOD BLESS YOU

 

BTW

luv the hat

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