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I was wondering why is that I hear so many conspiracy theories paraded around. From FEMA death camps to Sunday laws

Why are we so quick to hear them and why do we believe them? Is it damaging to faith and to or church?

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Fred

That is a good question. I doubt that you will get a defininative answer, for I suspect that there are as many reasons as there people.

For one, there is the tendency of humans, both genders, to gossip. For some it becomes such a habit that it seems that their motto is: "Tell me and I'll tell it." Far from being a good attribute, for sure. The number of people who have been destroyed by the tongue will only be known in the judgement.

The responses you get will be interesting, for sure.

Maranatha :)
Ray
People tend to believe anything that agrees with their preconceived ideas (such as, "I believe that the government will persecute Christians, and I heard that the government was building FEMA death camps, so it must be true!") whether or not it's true.
All the men of thy confederacy [Through confederacy there is a group of elites that are deceiving the whole world] have brought thee [even] to the border: the men that were at peace [the professed leaders are then following their instruction and preach the peace peace, unity in diversity message] with thee have deceived thee, [and] prevailed against thee; [they that eat] thy bread have laid a wound under thee: [there is] none understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise [men] out of Edom. Ob 1:7-8

How would the whole world be deceived into receiving the mark of the beast in Revelation 13, "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" Can Jesus return without the persecution, without the Sunday Law, and without the martyrdom of many witnesses, or without the destruction of the major part of the world such as never before nor after a nation.

Many times in church, I hear these very peaceful, message that Jesus can come back any time even tomorrow, while there is no terrible conflict above, is it possible? Just make sure you're ready, make sure you invite Jesus into your heart, but you don't really need to repent nor turn from sin , that's for the past :-) and you will have this amazing joy for eternity. Can it be that nice?
FEMA camps, is it real or conspiracy? Will there be persecution and martyrdom?
Take a click Detention Camp and find out and made up your own mind.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads [during Sunday Law], or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:4

As we were traveling along, we met a company who also were gazing at the glories of the place. I noticed red as a border on their garments; their crowns were brilliant; their robes were pure white. As we greeted them, I asked Jesus who they were. He said they were martyrs that had been slain for Him. With them was an innumerable company of little ones; they also had a hem of red on their garments. Early Writings, p. 18
William,
As soon as a person posts Alex Jones videos as fact, they are part of the conspiracy theory problem. These videos are demonstrably false with the claims they make. They do nothing but spread fear with fearsome imagery.
" I only think they will be an issue when the papacy finally takes over the world.
I do think that secret societies run everything, though."

Christian Chick
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It is not the papacy at first that will enforce Sunday observance but apostate protestantism wielding the power of the State. The papacy will enter the stage later when her wound is completely healed. It is not government that is to be feared but apostate protestantism and in the end apostate protestantism and catholicism working together to deceive the whole world. The religious element will take the ascendency in these last days. The State power will merely become the puppet of the church, the puppet of a false theocracy and we will relive the Dark Ages..

sky
William C said:
FEMA camps, is it real or conspiracy?

People really abuse the English language, by trying to change the definitions of words. The word "conspiracy" does not mean something that's not real. It means when people get together to plan a crime.

We want to believe everyone is innocent, and have peace in ourselves. But when the Word of God reveals what is in the hearts of men, (Hebrews 4:12), we see a different picture. Those in power do have a tendency to get together and form conspiracies when they feel there is no other way to achieve their objectives.

Some random examples in the Bible:

1. King David needed to cover up his affair with Bathsheba. It was a matter of national security. So, he formed a conspiracy to have the husband murdered, where it would look like he died in war:

2 Sam. 11:15 And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die.

David, Joab, and Joab's men where all involved in this conspiracy.

2. Ahab wanted a piece of land to grow an herb garden, but the owner, Naboth, said it was not for sale. Jezebel formed a conspiracy with the rulers Naboth's town, to make it look like he was guilty of a crime, for which he was publicly executed.

1 Kings 21:9 And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:
21:10 And set two men, sons of Belial, before him, to bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And [then] carry him out, and stone him, that he may die. 21:11 And the men of his city, [even] the elders and the nobles who were the inhabitants in his city, did as Jezebel had sent unto them, [and] as it [was] written in the letters which she had sent unto them. 21:12 They proclaimed a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people. 21:13 And there came in two men, children of Belial, and sat before him: and the men of Belial witnessed against him, [even] against Naboth, in the presence of the people, saying, Naboth did blaspheme God and the king. Then they carried him forth out of the city, and stoned him with stones, that he died. 21:14 Then they sent to Jezebel, saying, Naboth is stoned, and is dead.
21:15 And it came to pass, when Jezebel heard that Naboth was stoned, and was dead, that Jezebel said to Ahab, Arise, take possession of the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite, which he refused to give thee for money: for Naboth is not alive, but dead.
21:16 And it came to pass, when Ahab heard that Naboth was dead, that Ahab rose up to go down to the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite, to take possession of it.

3. Absalom's conspiracy to take over the throw:

2 Sam. 15:12 ..And the conspiracy was strong; for the people increased continually with Absalom.

This represented the rebellion of Lucifer. Then of course, there's that. Ellen White calls Satan the "chief of conspiracy", {GC 670.1}.

4. The conspiracy to get rid of Joseph:

Gen. 37:18 And when they saw him afar off, even before he came near unto them, they conspired against him to slay him.

5. The conspiracy to murder Jesus:

John 11:53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. Matt. 26:59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;

6. The conspiracies to get rid of us, in these days:

When the protection of human laws shall be withdrawn from those who honor the law of God, there will be, in different lands, a simultaneous movement for their destruction. As the time appointed in the decree draws near, the people will conspire to root out the hated sect. It will be determined to strike in one night a decisive blow, which shall utterly silence the voice of dissent and reproof. {GC 635.1}

Based on what we see God's people doing, in the Bible, it's no great stretch of the imagination to think the worldly rulers may be doing similar things, or even much worse. We'll find out in the judgment. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the murder of JFK was a conspiracy formed by the CIA. They did have the motive and the means. I wouldn't be surprised if 911 was staged so arms manufacturers can do their multi-billion dollar contracts, and so Big Oil can have that oil the over there. When it comes to 911, it's up to you to decide which conspiracy theory to believe. The politically correct theory is that Osama Bin Laden, from his cave hide-out, on the other side of the world, planned a simultaneous hi-jacking of 4 commercial jets, with little box-cutters knives, which where ran into 4 different targets at the same time. One missed it's target, but the building went down anyway, somehow. That's a hard conspiracy theory for me to believe.

But, like I say, I don't know. I think it's arrogant for people to act like they do know what happened. It also shows a poor concept of justice, to now allow any investigation into these crimes. And to justify the torture of potentially innocent people. It seems like they are being tortured to make them look guilty.
Wow! that was a very interesting post!

Well said.

I really appreciated it.

Thanks so much.

I will share it with my friends, to be sure. :)

sky

*your last sentence... to NOT allow any investigation into these crimes.
Interesting post-thank you

But I wonder-and I have been a victim of this also-how much damage is done to our faith by espousing these theories, It the end do we deny God His rightful place as sovereign of the universe.

In the end do conspiracies matter at all? And by espousing and promoting them are we doing more harm then good.
I think in my experience, we need to be aware of it, so that we can compare it to the Great Controversy book. Then our faith will be increase. What draw men to salvation is through the sacrifice of Christ on Calvary, and the spiritual lessons behind it.

But some do become obsessive with the topics, derailing from Bible studies, and prayer, and work, then it's counter productive.
We should be pre-occupied with conspiracies within the church though, especially since we have been told that the last deception of Satan will be to make of none effect the Testimonies of God's Spirit. It is easy for the enemy to accomplish this if the leaders of the General Conference have put God aside and accepted the devisings of men!

"We have far more to fear from within than from without." 1 S.M.122.

sky
I will only mention the fact that Dr. Kellogg was labeled a pantheist by those who had put God aside and accepted the devisings of men while Dr. Kellogg recognized God, not only as the Originator of all, but as the life of everything that lives. Since he was not amenable to men, he could not be brought under the control of men, and therefore he was singled out, as A.T. Jones was, as an apostate, a heretic, just as Jesus Christ and the Reformers were by a worldly church. Men conspired together to discredit these men so that they could keep their place.

"Organizations, institutions, unless kept by the power of God, will work under Satan's dictation to bring men under the control of men; and fraud and guile will bear the semblance of zeal for truth and for the advancement of the kingdom of God." T.M.366..

The greatest comspiracies of the last days are to be found within the church that professes to believe present truth.

sky

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