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Permalink Reply by Matt Britten on July 11, 2011 at 4:28am

I thought I might mention that Jesus slept the whole sabbath day and when He was awakened by the Spirit, He came forth with a smile on his face (Rom 8:11).

When reading the Psalms I came across an interesting verse that would suggest the Lord can give us counsel even as we sleep (Ps 16:7). This makes perfect sense when we realise that while our conscious mind is at rest, our subconscious (heart) is wide awake.

In reality, there is no place we can go (awake or asleep) that the Lord isn't there:

"Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?  If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there" (Ps 139:7-8).

There are many stories where God visited people while they were sleeping, probably one of my favourites would be Solomon's (1 kings 3:5-15).

So, if you are feeling tired and worn out on occasions during the sabbath day, dedicate your sleep time to the Lord and it will be sweet (Prov 3:24)! He may even give you heavenly downloads during that time, and be blessed oh daughter of the King.

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Permalink Reply by DJ on July 11, 2011 at 7:49am

Now, that Matt, is wisdom!!

Blessings to you for that and for all of us who heard it.

 

You are so right, when God seems to come softly when we are sleeping.

 

Anyone ever heard of Carol Zsarska?  She has a series of 10 DVD's all talking about the voice of the Lord as opposed to the voice of God and she takes people that are suffering from all sorts of evils to the word of God to show them that the voice they have been hearing and being oppressed by is not God's voice at all, but a counterfeit. 

I personally can't see Jesus standing by our bedsides if we are weary and shaking his head.

I like what Matt had to say.

D

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Permalink Reply by Romnick C. Medez on July 10, 2011 at 11:45pm

When reading God’s word regarding the Sabbath, there appears to be a great deal of specifics concerning what He desires of His people regarding their conduct on this day. One might even call His instructions a list of “do’s and don’ts.” The following are just a few examples:

 

1. Don’t work (Ex. 20: 8, Dt. 5:13-4))
   
2. Don’t compel servants to labor on your behalf (Ex. 20:10, Dt. 5:14-5)
   
3. Don’t compel strangers to labor on your behalf. (Ex. 20:10, Dt. 5:14-5)
   
4. Don’t compel your livestock to labor  (Dt. 5:14)
   
5. Don’t compel your family to labor (Ex. 20:10, Dt. 5:14-5)
   
6. Don’t prepare meals (Ex. 16:23-5)
   
7. Don’t go outside your place (Ex. 16:29)
   
8. Don’t gather your daily food (Ex. 16:22-3)
   
9. Don’t engage in business (Neh.10:31, 13:15-21)
   
10. Don’t do your own pleasure (Isa. 58:13)
    
11. Don’t speak your own words (Isa. 58:13)
    
12. Don’t think your own thoughts (Isa. 58:13)
    
13. Do assemble with God’s people (Lev. 23:1-3)
    
14. Do call the Sabbath a delight (Isa. 58:13)
    
15. Do call it honorable and holy (Isa. 58:13)

 

Mark 3:4 Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil?

 

What a great question to ask ourselves! In the debate over what is appropriate Sabbath activity, this question settles the debate, ‘is it lawful to do good…or to do evil?’ Maybe we should ask ourselves this question more often.

 

“Most of us would like to have our Sabbath dos and don’ts spelled out in black and white; then we could be relieved from having to make decisions. But with the Sabbath, as with many other things, there are many gray areas, and one of our great opportunities is to learn how to make the right choices. Ancient Israel allowed itself to get into a ‘no win’ situation when its leaders attempted to spell out the Sabbath prohibitions. Before long they became entangled in a web of conflicting rules and regulations that emphasized the letter of the law rather than the spirit. Jesus found them ‘straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel’ when they complained about his breaking the Sabbath because he healed a man on that day. His pertinent question to them, ‘Is it lawful to do good on the Sabbath?’ left them without response. He followed by observing that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath (see Mark 3:1–5; Mark 2:27).

 

“When the Prophet Joseph Smith was once asked how he governed his people, he responded by saying that he taught them correct principles and then let them govern themselves. A similar approach can be meaningful for each of us in determining whether a particular activity is compatible with the commandment to keep the Sabbath day holy. By first identifying the principles, we can then evaluate whether a given activity conforms to the spirit of keeping the Sabbath holy.”

 

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Permalink Reply by DJ on July 27, 2011 at 10:23pm

Romnick, Wise words and if your picture is correct, very wise for your age.

Bless You.

 

Dee

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Permalink Reply by Eddie-Lee on February 5, 2012 at 5:41am

Hey All,

I believe that the way we keep the Sabbath is a reflection of how we walk with God during the week. If we are involved with worldly pursuits during the week, the Sabbath brings our desires to a screeching halt.

Other than that, I think the devil magnifies simple things on Sabbath - during the week, not cooking for a day may be a non-issue. Focus on Jesus, every day of the week and the Sabbath will be a beautiful progression into a peaceful rest with our Lord.

I'm still learning to keep it properly - not least because I'm far from holy. =/

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Permalink Reply by Gabriel Rodriguez de Espinoza on February 5, 2012 at 9:00am

Personally Veronika, I don't think this question is appropriate. First of all, each person relationship with God is different, our worship with God should be private. Think about it.

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Permalink Reply by Veronika on February 5, 2012 at 12:50pm

our worship of god is not private in all issues. many things people can see and it can affect them, even their view of adventists as a whole.

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Permalink Reply by Gabriel Rodriguez de Espinoza on February 5, 2012 at 2:29pm

According to the scriptures, it is.

And when you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Truly I say to you, They have their reward. But you, when you pray, enter into your closet, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father which is in secret; and your Father which sees in secret shall reward you openly.

-Matthew 6:5-6

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Permalink Reply by Veronika on February 5, 2012 at 3:05pm

thats not what i meant. when you say you dont work on sabbath and people see you e.g. cooking it can affect them. i didnt mean praying talking to god or anything private like that

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Permalink Reply by Gabriel Rodriguez de Espinoza on February 5, 2012 at 7:38pm

That applies to worship too.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Macevle on February 5, 2012 at 10:23pm

Is cooking is worshiping Gabriel? Are you saying that God has left it to us to decipher what to do and not to do on sabbath? Please explain.

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