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I not watch online sermons often and seldon.wacth.them whole! I watch.twice likely.half of sermon from him.and its was stronger.and.deeper than all sermons in english lamguage that I have heard mainly in UK ! Some.of them..Pr Selburn Fray...other Ray Patrick..seems like you are in a circus! Or pentecostal church!
Is pr Nelson a Jesuit? Or a serious man of God?
Thanks for helping me to clarify this!

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He is the pastor at our biggest and most popular school. He is also on 3ABN every Saturday.

He teaches strange doctrine.  He has stated that the seeds of Christianity are found in the Koran.  He has taught civil disobedience against Federal Immigration laws, and is a strong advocate for WOPE.  In short, the Bible is merely a 'suggestion' to him.

He is a very popular pastor and very knowledgeable. I believe he is also a professor at Andrews University and a very good preacher. However, he has said a few things I don't agree with and I don't quite think are biblical mainly that Allah is the same as the God of the Bible and that women's ordination is fine. I was very disappointed when I heard him say those things and kind of stopped listening to his sermons at that point cause I was afraid I might pick up some error. However, I agree with him on many other things and I suppose he is fine with a grain of salt. Personally, I tend to listen to  Doug Bachelor, Walter Veith and Amazing Discoveries, Pastor Bohr, Pastor Henry Wright, Walter Pearson( who recently retired),  Saved to Serve, Gospel of Health, and, of course, nothing beats the late C.D. Brooks and late E.E, Cleveland.

Amen to everything you said.

Pastor Dwight Nelson is a great preacher, sadly it seems like he has some errors like Allah is the same as The Lord, I do not myself agree with his view on woman's ordination either. You ask about if Pastor Nelson is a Jesuit, I do not think so but sometimes the things he says makes one wonder indeed.  

The bible tells us not to judge.  Meaning don't condemn others.  Also it means we can't totally know for certain if a person is on the straight and narrow all we can know for sure is that we are right with the Lord because of assurance but even then God is the Judge of all mankind through Jesus the Son.  Jesus is perfect He will always be the perfect example we are to follow.

But, still:

2 Tim. 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 
2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

1 Tim. 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

3 John 1:9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. 

8:21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.

Acts 13:10 And said, O full of all subtlety and all mischief, [thou] child of the devil, [thou] enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 

13:11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord [is] upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season.

This is not faultfinding.  Faults can be covered, but if someone is teaching false teachings, everyone should be informed, so as to avoid falling after the wrong example and having your faith overthrown and weakened.  Sometimes whole groups are leavened with hypocrisy.

Matt. 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 

23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on men's shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them with one of their fingers.
23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

Are we sure Dwight k. Nelson is a hypocrite??  He likes to meet people on their own ground hence Allah being God and Women's Ordination can go either way depending on which you read your bible.  Many people are on both sides of the coin and both groups are Adventist.

Andrew this is a very baffling response. Should we accept Sunday worship because Sundaykeepers also quote verses that "can go either way"? Women's ordination is either wrong ir right biblically. We cannot afford at this late hour to change our skns depending on which crowd we are performing for.

No Sunday is NOT a holy day that is very clear from scripture.  There is not any reason to believe in Sunday Sacredness.  On the other hand there are plenty of reasons for believing in Jesus and Women's Ordination because soo many women have felt the call of being a pastor and what are you going to do cut off all the women who are pastors??  Because if we eliminated all the women pastors what would J.D. do.  He's not the head of his house.  And there are plenty of reasons why also...  I believe Shelley Quinn is a stronger christian and therefore she will be the head of the house.  That is just one instance of women headship.  Because the men didn't do their jobs as head of the home.  Also I haven't studied it out a lot, but I believe Allah is God just from the perspective of Ishmael.  

Andrew believes Allah is God? For your information, Andrew Allah is the Moon God, True Ishmael was the son of Abraham But Apostle Paul makes it very clear that Ishmael was not the son of promise, rather he is the son of works.   

We know the Muslims likes to claim Ishmael as the son that Abraham offered on the altar at Mout Moriah. Who do you rather believe the Bible or the Koran? We know that some Leaders in Adventism tries to build bridges to Muslims, Like Pastor Nelson, and now we see the "Great Hope" a watered down version of the "Great Controversy" And we have persons like you, Andrew wanting to make no protest, saying yeah whatever the Leadership says is fine. Well, it is not fine we should not compromise on the Word of God or EGW writings. 

"Returning to the geometric significance of the Ka'bah, Professor Hawkins has argued that it is exceedingly accurately aligned on two heavenly phenomena. These are the cycles of the moon and the rising of Canopus, the brightest star after Sirius. In a thirteenth-century Arabic manuscript by Mohammed ibn Abi Bakr Al Farisi it is stated that the alignment is set up for the setting crescent moon - an ancient symbol of the virgin-goddess which still appears in the national flags of many Islamic nations. In some flags - Algeria, Mauritania, Tunisia and Turkey - the crescent is accompanied by a star, perhaps representing Canopus."

As far as I'm aware the crescent and star combination has a heritage directly linked to the Babylonian cult of Inana (who if I'm not mistaken was usually depicted as crowned with the crescent and star combination) - and with the numerous other equivalent female fertility cults of near eastern antiquity (e.g., the cult of Isis). Its subsequent adoption as an Islamic symbol is similar to the Christian appropriation of pagan symbolism elsewhere (e.g., the various European "Black Madonnas"), and is testament to the persistence of ancient systems of belief into late antiquity and early modern times.

Hilal (Arabic: هلال‎) is an Arabic term, first developed in pre-Islamic Arabia, meaning crescent moon--specifically, the very slight crescent moon that is first visible after a new moon. Muslims look for the hilal when determining the beginning and end of Islamic months, but they don't worship it. The Quran says: "And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." (41:37). The need to determine the precise time of the appearance of the hilal was one of the inducements for Muslim scholars to study astronomy.

For hundreds of years, the Ottoman Empire ruled over the Muslim world. After centuries of battle with Christian Europe, it is understandable how the symbols of this empire became linked in people's minds with the faith of Islam as a whole.

Based on this history, many Muslims reject using the crescent moon as a symbol of Islam. The faith of Islam has historically had no symbol, and many refuse to accept what is essentially an ancient pagan icon. It is certainly not in uniform use among Muslims.

The so called Luna, half moon, or sickle of the moon, also waning and waxing moon, is a sign of fertility, related to life and death, and thus a popular symbol in many religions. It pinpoints changing seasons, ebb and tide (and related inundations as harbingers of fertility), and the feminine menstrual cycle. The half moon was the attribute of Luna and more specifically of Selene. It was later transferred to Diana (Artemis), offspring of the earth mother, and known not only as virgin but also as protectress of the newborn and symbol of fertility in her own right. Biblical references use the moon symbol to highlight cosmic events, divine epiphanies and the ephemeral nature of human life and history (see, for example, Isaiah 30,26; 60,19; Revelations 21,23). Patristic times saw in the symbol of the moon, or the mysterium lunae, i.e. the three phases of the moon: dying (waning), generating (waxing) and giving birth (full moon) a valid representation of the Church (ecclesia). Ecclesia is virginal and "dying" in the encounter with Christ, the bridegroom; she is maternal and lifegiving in her spousal relation with the redeemer, and resplendent in her grace-filled existence.

What I have seen about Mohamed I know he was not in favour of the symbol as he preferred that no symbol was used. But after his death there was some who wanted to use the symbol and in the same way that Sunday was imposed on the Christian's so the Moon symbol was slowly Imposed on Islam we see many Mosks sporting the Crescent moon on the rooftop.   

We should not compromise on The Holy Word, or EGW Writings.  But all of us have compromised.  When we fully fully repent we are allowed in the bible principle to punish all disobedience.  But with mercy and mixed with greater love.  The thing I see is people are trying to say bad things about the leadership when Jesus is in charge of His church and will save all those that come to God through Him because He ever lives to make intercession.  Forgiving the sinners.  and making wholistic changes in people's lives as they allow.  Pastor Nelson is a candidate for heaven and I appreciate him for who he is, not for what I would be tended to skepticize about.  Who I have a question with is not the EGW Estate or Mark Finley-  what I question is if Ellen even was right on on all of her theology.  I know she was a prophetess I don't doubt that I doubt whether all of her stuff was biblical???  I hope she makes it to heaven.  Her books are in the hands of the EGW Estate and her descendants which are doing a very good job so far as the fruit shows.

GBU! Elijah.


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