I can agree that Pr Nelson is a great preacher and writes just as well. But I do not agree with his view on WO or Islam and Allah who is, in reality, a Moon God see my post a little higher up.
Pastor Dwight Nelson wrote in his devotional book “God’s Dream for You” about of Hagar, mother of Ishmael, Father of the Arabs, whom God listened her prayer and God has love special for the muslims too. This is what I can perceive (my view) about the message of the pastor D. Nelson in his devotional book, where he there speaks of the Islam in some pages, doing reference to the texts of Apocalypse 18:1; Genesis 16:11; 37:28, Romans 15:20, 21
I think the pastor Nelson is saying that we are a people with a mission, with a message that should be give everybody, without to discriminate no one, but to include others communities of faith, to whom God will one day light them.
I don't have listened the complete sermon where he speaks about Allah is God, I think we should know the complete message (context) and don't only 4-6 minutes doing maybe conclusions hurried. I searched for Google some video about this but I don't found it, not complete.
What I can to say is about what I have read and understood of the devotional book, I appears is the same idea. And now, I have copied only a twos of texts of the book above mentioned:
“And who was Muhammad? He was born into the polytheistic Quraish tribe in Mecca around A.D. 570. Soon orphaned and raised by an uncle, at age 25 Muhammad married a wealthy widow. Fifteen years later, in a cave, he received a vision from the angel Gabriel, visions that continued for 12 years. In obedience to the angel, Muhammad began to teach that there was only one true God, Allah. His message of monotheism met strong resistance. But in 630 he and his forces retook Mecca, making it the center for islamic worship that it is today. Twenty years after his death his visions were transcribed and codified into the Qur’an. Could it be that into the darkness of paganism God ignited the faint light of truth? After all, He had done it before.” (Dwight K. Nelson, The chosen: God’s Dream for You, October 17)
“Every religión has its fanatical minority. But to call a religión satanic because of extremists is hardly a manifestation of the Christian Golden rule.” (Dwight K. Nelson, The chosen: God’s Dream for You, October 20)
On this link Preview devotional Book D. K. Nelson you can to find some preview of the pages of book cited and read since the page 301 or october 17 until October 20, page 304 and know the context.
Amelia Thanks for your reply. As you say:
“Every religión has its fanatical minority. But to call a religión satanic because of extremists is hardly a manifestation of the Christian Golden rule.”
Yes Amelia I have Read the account in Genesis indeed. Maybe you should take some time to read Revelation 9 where it clearly says the Muslims are the spawn of Satan.
You say: "where it clearly says the Muslims are the spawn of Satan." (emphasis mine) This is what I mean when say that we can come to "conclusions hurried", I don't see "clearly" that Revelation 9 mention in no way to "the Muslims". And, thanks for the advice :) I'll investigate. I read an article about What did Ellen White say about Islam? "White was shown a different power at the core of the conflict in the last days. It was not Islam." Well I think that is other theme of discussion, this is not the original topic :)
Have a nice Sabbath!
Thanks for your reply Amelia, If you can not see the Muslims in Rev. Ch. 9 is because you prefer not to see it. By the same token maybe you may be kind to tell me what you read that Chapter. And please take the time to read Jason's post it explains it better than I ever could. You see Pr Nelson may be a wonderful preacher but he is after all only a human and can get things wrong. I have noticed he have some personal preferences that he loves to air in some of his sermons.
Elijah, when I say «I don't see "clearly" that Revelation 9 mention in no way to "the Muslims"» I refer particularly to the word "clearly" that you used, I'm refering that the book of Revelation has many symbols and demands an search appropriate for its comprehension and not just a superficial reading for a common reader. In relation with interpretation of Revelation 9 posted above by Jason, it is very interesting and I don't contradict it, in fact I read since the first trumpet and I have listened one interpretation also in Spanish, similar. I don't know if at present the ASD Church has an official interpretation about the Seven trumpets because I read (I say it just as information) "such a final interpretation is not available" (A.M. Rodriguez, source here))
Only as information, I leave here these links:
but this is NOT the topic of discussion.
Independently of the fulfillment of the prophecy, we don’t can to deny that God blessed to the Adventist Church with a message and mission to share with the humanity, including others communities of faith, so let's come back to the subject Posted by christian striver (SDA) “Dwight Nelson: who is he?” He is the Adventist Pastor of Pioneer Memorial Church of the Andrews University since 1983, author of some Works and a renowned evangelist. I don't think he is a Jesuit, I think he is a serious man of God.
This is my view, I hope it will be helpful to you christian striver (SDA).
Thanks for your reply Amelia, I know Pr Nelson is a gifted man and in many of his Lectures I am happy to agree with his findings. But when it comes to the question about the Muslims. I do not agree.
I know that the prophecy of the 7 trumpets is a hard nut to crack. I believe in the historicist approach to the interpretation of the trumpets. There are things yet not fully understood. However, we have got to be careful that we do not use a scholarship to rationalize inspiration because the interpretations of the Ellen White do not agree with our thinking. Mrs. White gave support to the prophetic interpretations to some of the Millerites views. In some instances where there were problems, she pointed them out. She gave support to the interpretation of the views of Revelation 11 and the two witnesses in the light of the French Revolution. She gave support to the interpretation of the 2300 days as far as the dates were a concern and to some extent the events (the pre advent judgment). She supported the early Adventists views to a large extent on the three angels message. No one seemed to have a problem with those interpretations. But when it comes to the interpretation of the 6th trumpet, suddenly we have a problem with that. I know Ellen White was no Bible scholar or professional historian. But we must be consistent in our hermeneutics of her writings. Whatever little light God has revealed to us through her on apocalyptic prophecies let's be careful that we do not enshroud it in darkness and confusion when there is really no need to. She emphatically said that the interpretation of the 6th trumpet "was another remarkable fulfillment of prophecy".This is quite authoritative to me. Here I stand. And I rest my case. No need for speculation.