The statement as found in article 18 of the book “Seventh-day Adventists Believe” in in fact a blasphemy.
It states that “Her (Ellen White’s) writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction and correction”. According to the New Testament, especially the Gospel of John chapter 14 and 16, and an in context study of Revelation, Jesus Christ is God. He alone is the truth , the way and the light. Not any writings of any person. What Jesus said and did while on earth are for our guidance, instruction and correction. The Holy Spirit is promised to dwell within all the individual believers to be our comfort. Not just one person. The Holy Spirit is also God. So to say that a person’s writings are thus, actually places that person as an equal with God. Such a statement is blasphemy. By making such a belief a part of the fundamental beliefs of the denomination, it turn the organisation into a cult. By teaching something contrary to what Jesus said, the denomination can no longer claim to be Christian.
What do you think?
Judilia, you are correct. Yashua is our focus. Anything else that overshadows Him, is making a false god.
The sad part is the kernel of Mrs. White's mission was to point to scripture that Christ might be magnified more abundantly. Instead, like the Elder you mentioned they have magnified her more abundantly to overshadow Yashua.
No! And were going to prove it. Here are the two quotes that our critics throw at us:
“But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime ofamalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of GOD, and caused confusion everywhere. GOD purposed to destroy by a flood that powerful, long-lived race that had corrupted their ways before him.”—Spiritual Gifts, vol. 3, p. 64.
“Every species of animal which GOD had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which GOD did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men.”—Page 75.
But there are a couple of points we want to address here:
Point #1: What is said and what is not said.
It is as equally as important to note what a quote does NOT say as it is to note what it does say. Please note that the quotes, as well as the entire chapter, does not say:
1) Amalgamation of man with beast.'
2) That the amalgamation produced a type of man-beast species.
Point #2: Context of the quote in question.
The passage “amalgamation of man and beast” by itself can certainly be construed to mean “amalgamation of man with beast” but it can also be construed to mean “amalgamation of man and ofbeast.” To understanding which is the appropriate interpretation we must read the whole chapter in its context. If read, one will notice that if what Mrs. White meant was the amalgamation of animals with humans, she would have certainly spoken about that in a more in-depth way. She would have used words such as “man-beast, monsters, creatures, etc.” We can only find this two passages in this chapter, and the context will reveal why there here.
From the very beginning, she begins to speak about the intermingling of “certain groups” of people. She speaks of only two races, the descendents of Seth and the descendents of Cain. Notice her opening statements:
"Those who honored and feared to offend God, at first felt the curse but lightly; while those who turned from God and trampled upon his authority, felt the effects of the curse more heavily, especially in stature and nobleness of form."
Notice first that she begins speaking about two classes of people, those who felt the curse “lightly” and those who felt it “more heavily.” Who are these two groups of people? The descendents of Seth and of Cain. Both are addressed by their different titles: Seth’s descendents are called the “sons of God” while Cain’s are the “sons of man.” What crime did these two groups commit?
“As the sons of God mingled with the sons of men, they became corrupt, and by intermarriage with them, lost, through the influence of their wives, their peculiar, holy character, and united with the sons of Cain in their idolatry.”
They intermarried. Why was this a crime? Because the descendents of Cain were idolaters! God had never approved of intermingling with people of another religion and beliefs, especially of people who lived and enjoyed a life of sin. The Lord even gave laws some time after the flood to prevent this from happening again:
When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee….Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
(19) Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee. (See also Deut. 22:9-11.)
If the account in Genesis 6 were read, one could easily see the results of this intermingling. As soon as the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were “fair” they “took them wives of all which they chose.” –verse 2. As soon as this took place, in verse 3 God says his spirit will not always strive with man, and verse 4 says that there were “giants in those days.” The offspring produced by this intermingling of the sons of God with the daughters of men were men “of old” and “renown” – verse 5. Apparently the Lord was not pleased with the men of the earth in those days, and said that their thoughts were constantly wickedness. Note this carefully... the number of righteous men (sons of God) appeared less and less as they intermingled, while the sons of men with their wickedness increased. So much so, that only “Noah” and his family were the only “perfect and just” people found in his generation –verse 9. Consequently, only these were saved in the Ark. This steady increase of wickedness from verses 1 through 6, and the steady decrease of the sons of God through these verses, is the very reason why intermingling with other races or peoples of different beliefs is, as Ms White calls it, a “crime.” The problem here is not with the mixing of people, but with the mixing of people with different beliefs. As Ms White puts it…
“... they became corrupt, and by intermarriage with them, lost, through the influence of their wives, their peculiar, holy character, and united with the sons of Cain in their idolatry.” –3SG, page 60
They were influenced by the daughters of men into idolatry, and the very title “daughters of men” rather then “of God” shows they were not a people who worshiped the true God. God knew that intermingling with heathens would cause his people to turn astray…
“…For they will turn away thy son from following me that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
It is through this context that we should therefore understand her concluding statement “amalgamation of man and beast. Ellen G. White was in agreement with Paul when he said:
2 Corinthians 6:14
(14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
If what she meant was a mixing of man "with" beast, the context of the chapter would have dealt more with just that.
Point # 3: We now want to address a crucial question:
How can animals deface the image of God by amalgamation, as they are not created in his image?
The following web site (www.ellenwhitedefend.com) examines this particular point in a very informative way. Notice closely the underlines we have added to emphasis (the two graphics are ours):
“One apparent stumbling block in the way of accepting this interpretation of the passage as an intermarriage of races of men and a crossing of different species of animals is the construction of the statement: 'amalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of God.' And how could the crossing of species of animals do this? But let us look more closely at what she says. Two results follow from the 'amalgamation of [A] man and [B] beast:' It...
(A) 'defaced the image of God,' and
(B) 'caused confusion everywhere.'
We have seen how the marriage, the amalgamation, of the races of men produced the first of the results. Why could we not properly consider that the amalgamation of the races, or species, of animals produced the second, that is, 'caused confusion everywhere?' When two related things are described in one sentence, it does not follow that we must understand that all the results listed flow from each of the two. This brings us to a consideration of the second of the two controversial passages:
'Every species of animal which GOD had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which GOD did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men.'—Ibid., p. 75.
This passage is separated from the first by only a few pages. The intervening pages give the account of the Flood. Here she speaks of 'every species of animal which GOD had created,' in contrast with 'the confused species which God did not create.' 'Confused species' of what? The construction permits only one answer: Species of animal. But an amalgamation of man with beast would produce, not a species of animal, but a hybrid man-beast species, whatever that might be. Mrs. White is here most certainly speaking of 'confused species' of animals. And she says simply that such 'confused species' 'were the result of amalgamation.'
Let us summarize, now, by placing in parallel columns the substance of two statements by Mrs. White:
Note: The graphic is ours.
We believe these parallel passages fully warrant the conclusion, already reached, that when Mrs. White said, 'amalgamation of man and beast,' she meant (1) the amalgamation of races of men, and (2) the amalgamation of species of animals. The first “defaced the image of God, ” the second “caused confusion everywhere.” -visitellenwhitedefend.com
In addition to their response, we want you to note that the second quote in question actually confirms that when Mrs. White said amalgamation of animals the results of this, she concluded, was “confusion everywhere:”
“Every species of animal which GOD had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which GOD did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, we destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men.”—Ibid., p. 75.
Again, WE EMPHASIS that the quote which speaks of TWO types of living beings (humans and animals) results in TWO types of problems. It was the amalgamation of MAN that defaced the image of God, not that of the animals. The result of the amalgamation of the animals was the only result left in the quote… “confused species.”
Point # 4: Some critics provide sources to prove Ellen White supported Uriah Smith’s explanation of her quote.
We again quote from our friends at ellenwhitedefend.com on this matter:
“At no time did Mrs. White offer any comment on the matter. James White spoke approvingly of Smith's book defending Mrs. White against fifty-two objections. But it would be a bold assumption to conclude from this that he agreed with every detail of every explanation and defense that Smith presented. (See James White's approving paragraph in the Review and Herald, Aug. 25, 1868, p. 160.) In the chapter “The Image Beast and 666” we noted that James White approved, with apparently no qualification, a certain prophetic chart. But later, and in another connection, he gently ridiculed a point of prophetic interpretation that is reflected in one statement in the chart. Now, if we are not warranted in drawing from James White's approval of Smith's book the conclusion that he specifically endorsed Smith's statement on amalgamation, we are even less warranted in concluding from James White's approval that Mrs. White approved. Mrs. White's silence proves nothing. Only rarely did she make a statement regarding the accuracy or inaccuracy of explanations made by others concerning her writings.”
Reading ellen whites quotes out of context is common amoung our critics. See, for example, our response to Elder Olson's list of Ellen White contadictions.
Amalgamation does not have to go that far to be amalgamation. Right now there are living mice and sheep in labs that have a certain percentage of human brain cells. We do not need a horse with a man's head for it to be amalgamation. We also have plants and animals amalgamated together.
While I cannot prove it I believe it is very probably that behind closed lab doors in other countries it is much worse.
There are two types of amalgamations that have likely happened in the past.One is man with man Gen .6:4 and the other is man with beast. I believe that Mrs. White was talking about both happenings with various statements and if we do not understand the context of each situation there will be confusion.
Even if Jason were correct, and it is possible, I do not stress over this and it does not shake my confidence in the work of EGW. It is us and not her work that has the problem.
previously i have quotes numerous place where Ellen White used the phrase 'defaced the image of God' This should have been enough to correct faulty views.
Ok, so after the flood which races of men (if we assume the drop of the word beast by the implied "of") were amalgamated apparently to deface the image of God? I get that a believer should not marry an idolater but individual instances of that happening has not created a new race of people. If let's say 5 generations ago one of my ancestors married an idolater am I now a "confused species"? We are all equal under Christ; the gospel is available to everyone. I'm not forever cursed due to something my ancestors did. If I'm wrong then point out the race that proves I'm wrong.
Again my purpose is not to pick this apart. I'm just trying to say we should not create doctrine off remarks like this that are not based on the Bible.
the confused species were only referring to the animals. Please read the article in its entirety
Okay, I don't see the confusion applying only to the animals or the implied "of" as being a reasonable interpretation of the original statement, but for the sake of the argument I'll stipulate both. There still has to be "certain races of men" that are a result of the amalgamation, what are those races?
“Every species of animal which GOD had created were preserved in the ark. The confused species which GOD did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men.
Okay, but even if its minor how did the post flood amalgamation of man happen at all? Again the question presupposes my above stipulations. I don't accept that White was not referring to an amalgamation of man and beast that caused confused species.
Okay, so what is that genetically engineered race called now? If Noah was part of a messed up race it would apply to everyone today, not just certain races.
She seems to have been talking about amalgamation in two different contexts. Before the flood it was likely that animals were being crossed with man to some degree. We are told that as it was in the days of Noah so would it be in the last days. We see this beginning to happen before our eyes. There was also an amalgamation of man with man in the sense that the sons Seth were marrying the pagan daughters of Cain.
After the flood the is mixing of the faithful with the unfaithful continued. A third form of amalgamation may be crossing of very difference races. Mrs. White may have been talking about all three in her quotes referring to the time before the flood.
These variations can make this topic very confusing. Even so, this is no cause to doubt the Testimony of Jesus as given through EGW.
But as I have pointed out the post-flood mixing of faithful and unfaithful does not create a race. And I agree, not a cause of doubt for EGW, my only point is let's not treat statements that seem a little "off" as Ex Cathedra.