Could you go on a diet and still make no changes in your eating habits? Can you cook a meal by placing it in the freezer?
If you forgive someone, they should be welcome into you life.
HOWEVER, there is a proviso. That is that they have expresseds sorrow for what they have done and seek to change. See, there are at least two kinds of forgiveness.
1. Forgiveness - The type where I forgive someone to free my soul up from holding a grudge. The kind modeled by Jesus when on the cross He said: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." In doing this, Jesus opened the door for them to return and seek the second kind of forgiveness.
2. Forgiveness - This is the type where a person asks you to forgive them and thtey repent of what they have done, specifically. If we hold back on this kind of forgiveness, we close the door on God forgiving us. The story of the "two debtors." When the king forgave one debtor when he said he was sorry, then he went out and demanded payment from someone who owed him a little amount. By failing to forgive others, he lost the forgiveness the king had proffered.
Several people have come into my life and done my wife and I a great wrong. My wife and I have forgiven them, but they have never shown any repentence, so I know that if I allow them back into my life that they will do the same thing again, and that I cannot afford. But, when someone asks to be forgiven, we must forgive, just as we want God to forgive us.
We can forgive and cut them off, yes!
????? you do not make sence here for how can u say I have forgiven someone when u delibertly cut them out of your life? does God do that with u and if his spirit is being manifested in you are u going to harden your heart to say I forgive u but stay away from me?? , IS IT NOT Written that when you forgive someone they are to be granted full right to fellowship again just as if they never sinned?,
WHAT IS WRITEN IN SCRIPTURES abnout partaking of communion ? Does it not state that when u have a grudge against someone it is time then to settle it beforfe u take of communion? Is it ok in the sight of God to say I hav e forgiven u and after communion service still treat them as if they were a rug under your feet? .
Is that what you call forgiveness then? I WILL TELL you this much to ponder on if any one thinks they justified in saying they have forgiven a wrong against someone and then take it right back up and have nothing to do with them the Holy Spirit is not in them .. Is that not harsh words to speak then? Straight up Yes!!
You can not fool the Lord either u have forgiven them or you have not and if u have not I promise u this it will show in your actions. . too many have what is called selective forgiveness I WILL SELECT what I will forgive and how much . You can act for awhile all is forgiven then a wrong tone of voice u imagine is being used and wam the unforgiveness is multiplied!
AM I lying here? I do not think so for I see this often and if u truly honest you will search your heart and see if u too have done this . SAUL was the persecuter of the early christian church I THINK We all know this now in todays world how many of you would be as forgiving as the y were ?? > be honest!!
As I stated before, there are two different situations.
When Jesus hung on Calvary, He forgave those who crucified Him. But, they will be raised in the special ressurection to see Him coming in the clouds of heaven and they will then be destroyed with the other wicked.
Jesus did not entrust Himself to them after He arose from the dead. They were excluded from His circle of friends. For they had not changed, therefore, if given a chance they would do the same thing over again. Nowhere are we told to allow such a condition to exist.
It is true that if we fail to forgive those who seek forgiveness, then our sins will not be forgiven. So, we must forgive all who seek forgiveness and restore them as much as possible back into the condition that they were before. However, even in this, there are exceptions. I'll not go into those, as they are the exceptions, not the rule.
The difference is in the attitude of the one who has wronged us; as to whether they are taken back or excluded from our circle of friends and acquaintances.
If some one is my stombling block, I have to forgive, but I can not remean with that person. Besause he/she will cause me to fall.
YOU ARE GETTING PERSONAL IT IS A SUBJECT THROWN OUT FOR FEEDBACK BECAUSE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO FORGIVE AND NOT FORGET THIS IS JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT SO DON'T KILL ME PLEASE IT IS A DISCUSSION NOT A FIGHT.LOL.
Of what benefit will it gain you,you will forgive but cutting them off in your life?is like creating indirect foes,look here,if God forgave you on the cross did He cut you off,NO,then why do you do that?if God could have cut you off you could not have gained salvation,if you forgive you remember his/her sins no more the way God does,just have love within you for everyone no matter the situation,it is the greatest gift you can offer one...shalom
Your comments hint towards the "once saved always saved" mentality. No, you did not say that, but the ideas were in that same court.
God extends forgiveness to all mankind. HOWEVER, only those who repent and turn from their evil ways will be saved and be with Him in glory. God does not save all who have been offered forgiveness. Only those who respond to that love will show by their actions that they have truely repented.
"if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land." 2 Chron. 7:14 (ESV)
"and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I intended to do to it." Jeremiah 18:8 (ESV)
God does not expect more of us than He is willing to do Himself. There is absolutly nothing in inspired writtings where we are to forgive and restore those who are not sorry for what they have done. One can keep forgiveness extended, but only when they admit their fault and accept that forgiveness are we to allow them back to where they were before.
What if its a situation of a husband and wife. The wife realises that the husband has been cheating for some time.
How is the wife supposed to forgive and still continue to live with her husband?