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Numbers 23:20: 'Then he spoke his message:

“Arise, Balak, and listen;
    hear me, son of Zippor.
19 God is not human, that he should lie,
    not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
    Does he promise and not fulfill?
20 I have received a command to bless;
    he has blessed, and I cannot change it.'

Romans 11: 'I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”[a]? And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b] So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, as it is written:

“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
    eyes that could not see
    and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.”[c]

And David says:

“May their table become a snare and a trap,
    a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
    and their backs be bent forever.”[d]

Ingrafted Branches

11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

All Israel Will Be Saved

25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
    he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
    when I take away their sins.”[g]

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.


33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and[i] knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments,
    and his paths beyond tracing out!
34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
    Or who has been his counselor?”[j]
35 “Who has ever given to God,
    that God should repay them?”[k]
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
    To him be the glory forever! Amen.'

Anti-Semitism, is Satanic, as God is still calling to his people.

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Excellent Mr. Heisenberg, my hats off to you. Now if thats what Israel has in store, what about the body of Christ?

That dispensation has even more glory and great promises, and great grace.

But some cannot receive it as a gift, and feel they have works and if they sin they shall suffer loss of eternal life?

What many do not understand is that the gift of God, holy spirit which is the token of eternal life, a down payment, as the earnest that God through Jesus Christ will fulfill the rest, including our eternal life IS BY GRACE ONLY.

On the other hand, REWARDS are by works, those that work much doing godly work according to God's Word and will, will receive greater rewards while those that work less will receive less rewards, a very fair system indeed.

The following is from

Ephesians 1:13-14

Jesus and His Father give us a guarantee of His promise to marry us. On the Feast of Pentecost (Acts 2), fifty days after Jesus' resurrection, God sent a "deposit," the "earnest" of the Holy Spirit—the guarantee of the full payment to come later, when we are changed from flesh to spirit. There may be more here than some realize.

The Greek word for "earnest" is arrabon. When taken in the context of our understanding of a glorious wedding coming, it is a word packed with meaning. Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words comments:

Originally, "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser and forfeited if the purchase was not completed, [arrabon] was probably a Phoenician word, introduced into Greece. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness, . . . particularly of their eternal inheritance.

Then comes this final sentence: "In modern Greek arrabona is an 'engagement ring.'" Of course! It makes so much sense. When Jesus asks us to drink of His cup—and we do—He follows by giving us a sign of His pledge: a kind of engagement ring, an earnest of His Holy Spirit! All this happened on the likely anniversary of God's proposal to Israel, the Day of Pentecost, about the time Boaz and Ruth pledged their troth.'"

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. In the Bible there are three main peoples, Jew (Hebrews), Gentile, and the Church of God. Part of the sacred secrets (musterion) given to Paul by Jesus Christ, was the knowledge of the one body of Christ, and that Jesus Christ is the head of that spiritual church. As taught by Paul, once a person who is a Jew believes in Christ, he is no longer a Jew, but of the Church of God, and the same for the Gentile, once he believes in Christ, he is no longer a Gentile, but of the Church of God. We are privileged to live in this age of Grace, which really was meant to be the age or dispensation (administration) of the Musterion (sacred secrets), but unfortunately they were lost when all Asia turned away from Paul, and further lost for 2000 years now. This period and eternal life starts as referred to in Revelation 10:16–17, when the mystery (musterioin, sacred secrets) will be finished, and time will be no more! What a tremendous God we have, and a tremendous Messiah, Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God

God has much more patience and forbearance than I have, If I was God I would be disgusted with how man has for a part rejected God's messages and will, and gone his own way of religion, including "Christianity."

Rev 10 only contains 11 verses unless your Bible is different to normal bibles. 

Typo: 10:6-7. Don't know how that 1 was added twice? Auto correct, auto mess up? Sometimes iPad changes the intent as it predicts wrongly what you want.

I don't think you have understood who a Jew is ( Romans 2:28,29) and Romans 9:6. These so called Jews have been rejected long ago...  

It is precisely because the Hebrews dis­obeyed God that—what He purposed to do for the world through Israel of old He will finally accomplish through His church on earth today, and many of the prom­ises originally made to Israel will be fulfilled to His remnant people at the close of time. The SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 4, pp. 25, 26

"By their failure to carry out His purpose they made it impossible for Him to fulfill to them His promise of blessing." E. G. White, Testimonies, vol. 8, p. 119.

Our Lord said to "the chief priests and the elders of the people": "Therefore say unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" (Matt. 21:43).

That is the position of the Church that I have seen, Jews are by their nature 'bad'.  That makes as much sense of saying because a large preponderance of black people commit crime world wide that they 'bear the mark of Cain,' and are 'bad.'  The way, or Christianity is a reform movement of Judaism.  I have a clear understanding who a Jew is, and I understand why the Adventist Church claims to take their place presumptually.  That is the wild root being grafted as Goy, or Gentile assuming they are superior.  I understand who is a Jew, as that is in my family tree.  I think many Adventists are like the Pharisees who came to John the Baptists and claimed to be the descendants of Abraham.  They say, 'We are old Adventists,' and John the Baptist's response should be the same and refer to them as a brood of Vipers. Jews never stopped being God's people, He has not cut them off, and is still reaching out to them.  Further, your comments betray themselves.  They are still God's people, and He is still reaching out to them despite the constant Anti-Semitic attitudes and teachings of the Church.  The reason, they are being slaughtered, and abused to this day, is Satan delights in abusing His people.  God's bless and calling cannot be recalled.  They are still a blessed people that He is reaching out to, and many have become Messianic.   But, the drum beat that Jews are bad is simply racist and inaccurate as the 'Mark of Cain' myth.

I'm not understanding the Anti-Semitism connection mentioned here, but God's gifts and calling are directly connected. God's call is to the church at this time; "those who are called", and to the church gifts are given.

Ephesians 4:7 But to each one of us grace is given according to the size of the gift of The Messiah. 8Therefore it is said, "He ascended to the heights and took captivity prisoner and he has given gifts to the children of men." 9But that he ascended, what is it but that also he first descended to the lower regions of The Earth? 10He who descended is the same who also ascended higher than all Heavens to restore all things. 11And he gave some who are Apostles and some who are Prophets and some who are Evangelists and some who are Pastors and some who are Teachers, 12For the perfecting of The Holy Ones, for the work of the ministry, for the building up of the body of The Messiah.

God's people are no longer the Hebrew and Jewish nations (Israel), but are those whom are called of God.  Jesus makes this clear.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, a small rock and upon the large rock I will build my congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against her.

The church is being perfected, it is the anchor to the world because it will help the Messiah save the whole world.


I have found the Church to be degenerating, not perfecting.  I find arrogance that they are superior to God's original people, which the Bible does not teach.  It warns against such arrogance. Yet, lesson after lesson is how the Jews are bad people.  Does my lineage make me a bad person.

I Cor. 10:26-33 "For the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof.
If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.
But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof:
Conscience, † I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man’s conscience?
For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks?
Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved."
Yes Mr. Heisenberg, there is some arrogance etc. The spiritual church of this age and administration has been given great responsibility that most do not even comprehend, let alone fulfill.

But even if understood, must be tempered with humility and meekness, and give none offense as above scriptures state, but without compromise of the truth.

None of us deserve the grace given to us by God, that is why it is only by grace.

The biblical nations of Israel including the Jewish people were given a responsibility, and in spite of themselves, God through them, the tribe of Judah, the Jews, brought about the promise. God’s calling now is to nation, tongues and people which include the Jews also.

I do believe they will play an end-time role in the coming of the Messiah to earth.

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

The nation state Israel will become the center point of the entire world.

16And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

H W Armstrong theology again I see the SDA makes a different application. Are you sure you are SDA?


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