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Feast of Tabernacles

I am not aware that Seventh Day adventists celebrate any of these kind of feasts....so how come some do?

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Blessings Alli M.,

Pastor McGill is NOT a regular Seventh-day Adventists. He is the Pastor of an off-shoot group called the Creation 7th Day Adventists who has received a court order to change their name. He is looking for sympathy from us here on AO.

Although, there may be a small number of regular SDA's that do try to keep feast days.

Biblically, the typical, or symbolic feast days are no longer valid. Only God can keep the anti-typical, or genuine feast days and He has started that process.

God Bless.

Thank you Alexander. These offshoots sure do confuse people..but then I guess that's why satan uses them...I did not think the feasts were valid..but when I see things like that I feel that I must question..and re question things.

God Bless.

I do believe all of these offshoots should get their own name..seriously..they just want to play tag team with us because Seventh Day Adventist is widely known and they receive special privileges for Sabbath in the military etc..I guess thats why all these off shoots keep part of our name..or change it a little..and to deceive of course.

Wow..I checked out this offshoot...............http://www.everythingimportant.org/Walter_McGill/

I noticed one of the beliefs is............."That his group has achieved complete victory over known sins."

I guess I will let the site show whether he sins or not lol.

Hi Ron

Let us consider again:

  • How shall we prove in light of the passage in Mal. 4 alone, that there is to be made a separation in any portion of the law given to the people at Sinai (Horeb)?  We certainly do not want to be rash and judge any part or portion of God's law as "man made rules".  What exactly was given at Horeb, and is the passage in Malachi (alongside what is stated about Elijah therein), written as a message to and for us today?

  • What also of Acts 3 that speaks of both a blotting out of sin in correlation with a time when "all" is to be restored?  "{PK 678.1}    In the time of the end every divine institution is to be restored."

  • True enough though, the animal sacrifices are now (as stated by Paul Heb. 7:12), replaced because of Christ's sacrifice "once for all" Heb. 10:10, and a "novelty" the feasts would be without sacrifice, but that is not all that must be considered:  "The smitten rock was a figure of Christ, and through this symbol the most precious spiritual truths are taught. As the life-giving waters flowed from the smitten rock, so from Christ, "smitten of God," "wounded for our transgressions," "bruised for our iniquities" (Isa. 53:4, 5), the stream of salvation flows for a lost race. As the rock had been once smitten, so Christ was to be "once offered to bear the sins of many" (Heb. 9:28). Our Saviour was not to be sacrificed a second time; and it is only necessary for those who seek the blessings of His grace to ask in the name of Jesus, pouring forth the heart's desire in penitential prayer. Such prayer will bring before the Lord of hosts the wounds of Jesus, and then will flow forth afresh the life-giving blood, symbolized by the flowing of the living water for Israel. . . .  {TMK 23.4}".   Does Christ still shed his blood in the heavens, and is our sacrifice now (as displayed in the foot-washing ceremony), the confession and putting away of sin?

  • I submit for your investigation also, that the only thing that was nailed to the cross was a record of our sins, for David declared that "the law of the Lord is perfect" to the converting of the soul, so how could it be such as that which would be against us?  Is there yet another historical misunderstanding in relation to the passage, handed down, but now needing to be corrected?

We remain yet free to consider all things no matter how ludicrous they at first sound to the ear, for whoever in a day gone by, did ever consider that a child could be born of a virgin?

Adventism is a system of restoration of the things of God.

Take Care

Walt (Spence)

I see your point Ron, but I am also aware that you seem to be viewing the "types and ceremonies" as too broad.   Examine again if you will, and note that they point to the abolishing of the same animal sacrifices as stated in Hebrews.

It is in terms of the sacrifices, where type met antitype in the death of Christ, is it not?

We should note that it was this very Jesus that gave the law, judgments an statutes at Horeb Mal. 4; and stated at that time also, "for ever, throughout your generations".  Was that just for the folks back then, or meant for modern Israel too?

Why do we reach down into Deut. 14:8 and eat no "swine", but seem to ignore many of the other items directly after it?

Walt

Yes Roland, Jesus has sweep away the sho;e system of types and ceremonies.

 

I gona tell you one thing are you awere that Walter is a Davidain Sevenday a.k.a Shepherd's Rod? The Shepherd's Rod also believe in type and antitype! Beware!

 

God bless

hey  Benicio,i like readind n watching  the work of Walter Veith,what do you mean he's a davidian would like to know more pliz,this my mail-josephkitz@yahoo.com

Hi Benicio

I'm afraid it's much worse, since last year about this time I accepted the Branch doctrine.


Regular Davidians don't generally keep the feasts.

Take Care

Hi Walter

Help here what is the defference in the Barnch and the regular Davidians.

 

Benicio

Hey, about that type and antitype bit; so do EGW and the SDA pioneers.

Check it out.

Walt

Hi Ron

How so?  Though it is the popular position of Christian denominations, we might ask:

Besides that one EGW reference, what else may be used as support for the position you hold on the subject?  I know that because we were raised and taught not to observe the Lord's holidays, it remains the more convenient choice.  But we should not allow the fact of such to bias our judgement.

In time past, and while still under Egyptian slavery, God called the Hebrews to the observance of His Sabbath, and thereby things got a little worse for a moment.  Yet, their obedience in that regard was a condition of them receiving further blessings from the Lord, and their release.

It will not take long for the one that takes a peak, to find that EGW calls the SDA, Israel --  and at that, for good reason.  The promises pertain to us as a people, and in a sense, always had, for God knows all things.

So let me know if you can, as tradition counts for little while the timely truth is everything.

The truth is what we need, and we are advised to go to the "bottom" of these Bible topics.

Take Care

Walt

Hi Walter

Ellen White call the church Spiritual Israel, is a big defference.

You born Israelities, both you become a spiritual Israelities.

Any one can become a spiritual Israelities. You can never become a Jew, you born a jew. But as SDA people we became spiritual Israelities/Israel.

 

Benicio

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