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Why seventh day Adventist church leading prophet Ellen G. White say drinking coffee and tea is a sin?

 

I think Ellen G. White is biblically and scientifically wrong

What do you think?

"Tea and coffee drinking is a sin, an injurious indulgence, which like other evils, injures the soul." (Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 425, written in 1896).

A. Ellen G. White is biblically wrong

1. 1 Timothy 4:2-4

“Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving”,

2. Romans 14:17-18,20

17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

 

3. Matthew 15:11

“What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'" “For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") Mark 7:19.

 

4. 1 Corinthians 10:25

“Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience”, “For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving”, 1 Timothy 4:4.

 

 

5. Romans 14:14Paul says

 “As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean”

 

6. Titus 1:15

“To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted”.

 

7. Romans 14:23

“But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin”.

 

 

 

B. Ellen G. White is scientifically wrong

Here are 10 amazing scientific health perks (benefits)

 

Perk #1: Hot Coffee May Fight Superbug Infections.

 

Compared to people who don’t drink hot coffee or tea, those who do are 50 percent less likely to harbor MRSA (methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) bacteria in their nose—and may therefore be at significantly lower risk for developing a dangerous superbug infection. MRSA causes 278,000 hospitalizations and more than 6,500 deaths in the US annually.

 

Perk #2: Coffee Decreases Diabetes Risk.

 

Researchers at Harvardwho followed more than 125,000 men and women for more than 10 years found that drinking six cups of coffee daily appears to help ward off type 2 diabetes.

In men, a six-or-more cup daily java habit slashed the risk by more than 50 percent compared to men who didn’t drink coffee; among women, sipping six cups daily trimmed risk by nearly 30 percent.

 

Perk #3: Coffee Combats Gallstones.

 

Another Harvard studythat tracked more than 46,000 men ages 40 to 75 for 10 years showed that drinking two to three cups of regular coffee (not decaf) daily shrank the risk of gallstonesby 40 percent (and may have similar benefits for women). Coffee seems to stimulate gallbladder contractions and reduce cholesterol in bile that can form gallstones. Other sources of caffeine, including tea and sodas, don’t help.

 

Perk #4: Coffee Benefits Digestive Health.

 

A 10-year study in Japan including 96,000 adults found that drinking three or more cups of java per day halved the colon cancer risk in women.

 

Perk #5: Coffee May Stave Off Stroke.

 

A Swedish study published in 2011 reported that drinking one or more cups of java daily lowered stroke risk by 22 to 25 percent. More than 34,000 women were followed for slightly more than 10 years.

 

Perk #6: Coffee Is a Mood-Booster.

 

A studyby Harvard School of Public Health found a 20 percent lower risk of depression in women who drink coffee regularly compared to women who don’t. More than 50,000 midlife women participated.  And for some, coffee actually seems to be lifesaving: Earlier studies showed that the risk of suicide declines as coffee consumption rises. And a study in Finland found a lower risk of severe depression in men who drank the most coffee.

 

Perk #7: Coffee Improves Men’s Health.

 

Guys, here’s a great reason to grab a cup of joe: Another Harvard study published last year followed almost 48,000 men for 20 years and found that the risk of prostate cancer was 20 percent lower in those who drank six or more cups of coffee daily, regular or decaf.

Better yet, those who quaffed the most were 60 percent less likely than nondrinkers to develop a lethal form of prostate cancer. Drinking one to three cups of java reduced the risk of fatal prostate cancer by 30 percent.

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Perk #8: Coffee Cuts Breast Cancer Risk.

 

A study from Sweden’s prestigious Karolinska Institutet suggests that women who drink five or more cups of coffee per day cut risk of aggressive estrogen-receptor negative breast cancer by 57 percent. Exactly what it is about coffee that works against this particular kind of breast cancer isn’t known.

 

Perk #9: Coffee Protects Women’s Skin

Yet another study from the Harvard School of Public Health found a 20 percent lower risk of basal cell carcinoma, the most common type of skin cancer, in women who drank more than three cups of regular coffee daily.

 

Perk #10: Coffee Has An Amazing Potential to Protect Against Alzheimer’s.

 

Studies in Finland have found that people who drank three to five cups of coffee daily when they were middle-aged had a 60 to 70 percent drop in risk for Alzheimer’s later in life.

A 2011 study at Florida Alzheimer's Disease Research Center is the first to show that caffeinated coffee appears to protect against the memory-robbing disorder in a way not seem with other caffeinated drinks or decaf. The mouse study, publishedin Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease, found that caffeinated coffee spurs a rise in blood levels of granulocyte colony stimulating factor (GCSF), a growth factor that’s greatly diminished in Alzheimer’s patients.

The boost is important, since GCSF causes bone marrow stems to enter the brain and remove harmful beta-amyloid protein that triggers Alzheimer’s. GCSF also forges new brain cell connections and boosts levels of new neurons. “Together, these actions appear to give coffee an amazing potential to protect against Alzheimer’s—but only if you drink moderate amounts,” remarked one of the study authors.

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Written on 10/14/12

 

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This is going to get interesting....

I will state that I have learned there is a big difference between coffee in America and coffee in many parts of the world. 

Oh yeah Sarah lol.

No, honestly.  In particular the coffee in the Middle East. 

Haven't had any personally in the Middle East....Don't like the taste of coffee,  but may drink Postum as I understand it may be making a comeback. 

Lol, no, I wasn't going  oh yeah to the different coffee's I put it before you added that art..i put it for what you said about his being interesting lol.

Perk #10: Coffee Has An Amazing Potential to Protect Against Alzheimer’s.

Studies in Finland have found that people who drank three to five cups of coffee daily when they were middle-aged had a 60 to 70 percent drop in risk for Alzheimer’s later in life.

A 2011 study at Florida Alzheimer's Disease Research Center is the first to show that caffeinated coffee appears to protect against the memory-robbing disorder in a way not seem with other caffeinated drinks or decaf. The mouse study, publishedin Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease, found that caffeinated coffee spurs a rise in blood levels of granulocyte colony stimulating factor (GCSF), a growth factor that’s greatly diminished in Alzheimer’s patients.

The boost is important, since GCSF causes bone marrow stems to enter the brain and remove harmful beta-amyloid protein that triggers Alzheimer’s. GCSF also forges new brain cell connections and boosts levels of new neurons. “Together, these actions appear to give coffee an amazing potential to protect against Alzheimer’s—but only if you drink moderate amounts,” remarked one of the study authors.

This would only be plausible if the participants of the study had the same lifestyle and diet in foods and environment.  I need to follow the research and read the original study.

Regarding EGW being a "false prophet" because of this, you would have to do better....Much better.  While coffee may indeed have some benefits, it DOES have some health hazards as well.  Fact.  People have to decide prayerfully for themselves what they believe is God's will for them and their health outside of Scripture.

Amen.

Plus we need to take in to account that sister White also said that certain things should never be consumed, she was not referring to medicinal purposes.. Those were blanket statements referring to the general populous. There were a few times in her writings where she said that there was an exception for those with special needs that couldn't get around using something medicinally...

For example she said at one point that animal products should never be consumed however before certain medications came about to help with a disorder one Adventist had she said that since there was a certain element in eggs (when researched and replaced by medication i later years it turned out I believe to be an enzyme that he needed to survive.)  that helped his specific and rare disorder that could not be replaced by plant food that eating them once a week was ok..

ty :0)

Our body is the Temple therefore anything that goes into it that harms us in any way is wrong. We are not to defile it.

From Ministry of Healing..............

Tea and Coffee

Tea acts as a stimulants and, to a certain extent, produces intoxication. The action of coffee and many other popular drinks is similar. The first effect is exhilarating. The nerves of the stomach are excited; these convey irritation to the brain, and this in turn is aroused to impart increased action to the heart and short-lived energy to the entire system. Fatigue is forgotten; the strength seems to be increased. The intellect is aroused, the imagination becomes more vivid.

Because of these results, many suppose that their tea or coffee is doing them great good. But this is a mistake. Tea and coffee do not nourish the system. Their effect is produced before there has been time for digestion and assimilation, and what seems to be strength is only nervous excitement. When the influence of the stimulant is gone, the unnatural force abates, and the result is a corresponding degree of languor and debility.

The continued use of these nerve irritants is followed by headache, wakefulness, palpitation of the heart, indigestion, trembling, and many other evils; for they wear away the life forces. Tired nerves need rest and quiet instead of stimulation

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and overwork. Nature needs time to recuperate her exhausted energies. When her forces are goaded on by the use of stimulants, more will be accomplished for a time; but, as the system becomes debilitated by their constant use, it gradually becomes more difficult to rouse the energies to the desired point. The demand for stimulants becomes more difficult to control, until the will is overborne and there seems to be no power to deny the unnatural craving. Stronger and still stronger stimulants are called for, until exhausted nature can no longer respond.

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Damaging Effects of Tea and Coffee Consumption

Tea

  1. Anti-thiamine action and thiamine inactivation. This means that tea blocks the action of Vitamin B1.
  2. Contains fluorine at substantial levels and also fluor-aluminium complexes.
  3. Inhibits absorption of iron, especially from cereals. High levels of Vitamin C minimize this action.
  4. Has a diuretic action, which, as a consequence, upsets Na/K balance in favour of sodium.
  5. There is some evidence of carcinogenic effects from tea tannins.
  6. Tea tannins affect the heart and can cause heart-muscle lesions in rats.
  7. Some statistical evidence links tea-drinking in expectant mothers with congenital abnormalities in their babies

Coffee

  1. Affects stomach secretions, including HCI - stomach acid.
  2. Affects acid/base equilibrium in the body.
  3. Upsets electrolyte balance, especially Na and K and upsets water balance - a definite diuretic.
  4. Like tea, has anti-thiamine action.
  5. Increases atherosclerosis.
  6. Affects behaviour.
  7. Gives rise to methylitrosourea that may be a cause of bladder tumours.
  8. Adversely affects blood fatty acids and blood sugar control.
  9. Some work suggests a link with teratomas, ie tumours of the unborn foetus.
  10. Has been linked with duodenal ulcers.
  11. Has a mutagenic action. ie causes abnormal germ cells - viz sperm and ova.
  12. Inhibits iron absorption.
  13. Produces nitrosamines, which are known cancer-causing agents.
  14. Statistically, high coffee consumption is correlated to the incidence of carcinoma of the pancreas.
  15. De-mineralises the tissues.

............foodalive.org.

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Addiction to caffeine can begin as early as in  school, or as the syllabus pressure gets the better of you in college or perhaps, when you land a job and have to course up the anxiety ridden path to office. The first sip happens when you battling stress and depression. If you're caffeine dependent answer the following questions and evaluate the addiction status:

  • Do you consume more than two cups of coffee, tea or cola or chocolate in a day?

  • Do you feel fatigued on and off during the day?

  • Do you go through massive  emotional mood swings during the day?

  • Do you suffer from frequent headaches?

  •  Do you suffer from constipation or are you dependent on tea or coffee in the morning for clearing your bowels?

  • Do you suffer from acidity or heartburn?

  • Do you feel a generalized pain in the neck, shoulders and back region and a sensation of discomfort in the legs, hands and stomach?

  • Do you suffer from a burning sensation, fatigue and heaviness in the eyes?

  • If you are a woman do you suffer from premenstrual syndromes?

  • Do you have difficulty in going to sleep?

  • Do you wake up in the morning feeling dead tired?

  • Are you easily irritable?

  • Do you suffer from irregular or rapid heartbeats?

  • Do you often feel dizzy?

  • Do you have high blood pressure problems apart from anxiety problems?

  • Do you have ulcers?

  • Do you have problems concentrating without your regular cup of coffee?

  • Do your hands tremor?

  • Do you feel dehydrated?

                If you have answered  five to six of the questions with an 'yes' caffeine is part of your daily system, reduction or removal of products laced with caffeine from your diet will improve your health considerably.
                If you have answered seven to eight  of the questions in the affirmative, you are a caffeine addict, and need to reduce or eliminate caffeine from your diet. Before caffeine causes any nutritional imbalance or disorder try and be conscious about  what you eat and drink.
                If 10 to 12 of the questions have a positive answer, its time to sit up and listen to your body signals. Caffeine can cause serious damage to your health. Wean yourself of the habit slowly and steadily, preferably with the help o fhe dietician.
                Remember this is just a self help questionnaire and not a professional diagnosis sheet. Incase of alarming results it is advisable to contact the  family doctor.

................http://www.twilightbridge.com/deaddictions/coffee.htm

 

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Tea and coffee have the property of habit formation. They are consumed all over the world. Tea and coffee are taken mainly as hot drinks for their stimulating effect. This article will discuss the harmful effects of tea and coffee. Tea is prepared from leaves. It is grown in India, Brazil, China and Japan. The tea contains tannin, a habit forming drug.

The composition of tea is similar to coffee. It has bad effect equal top poison. It produces indigestion, kidney diseases, cardiac, respiration and nervous problems. Excessive boiling of tea more than five minutes is dangerous as it releases lead and its consumption releases lead poison leading to paralysis and nerve damage.

Coffee is a central nervous stimulant. It stimulates the vagus nerve and secretes more acid. For 2-3 hours or more people will not take food. Then the coffee and acid mixture will be circulated all over the body. The action of acid is to burn, so it burns wherever it goes, resulting in hyper acidity, high blood pressure, anemia, diabetes and cancer. It contains 3% caffeine, 5% Nitrogen, 10% Tannin, 5.5% minerals and 5% aromatic oils. The most powerful effect on the body is by tannin and aromatic oils. The coffee will impair digestion, produces kidney disease, incontinence, premenstrual syndrome, increases blood sugar and also produces heat production and palpitation, and osteoporosis.

So, it is dangerous to use tea or coffee as they promote ill health and shorten the life with disease and misery. One can take fruit juice or vegetable soup in place of tea and coffee. They are rich in valuable vitamins and nutrients and do not contain any side effects.

Disclaimer: This article is not meant to provide health advice and is for general information only. Always seek the insights of a qualified health professional before embarking on any health program.

Copyright © Nick Mutt, All Rights Reserved. If you want to use this article on your website or in your ezine, make all the URLs (links) active.



Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/2058814

I will state the same thing here, you would also have to do better than this to convince someone that coffee is "bad for them.

I drink Ginger Root Tea for my voice and to get rid of nausea, illness, and for my father, gas (heartburn).  It also cleans out your system.  It's tea.  The generalizations are too vague to apply generally.  BTW, it doesn't have any caffeine.

If yours does not have caffeine or the drug tannin, then it is not the kind of tea that is bad...there are lots of teas, herbal..that are not what all this is describing.

But that is not what your EGW quote(s) say(s), and is the problem/issue why  weknowinjesusbestimeaheadofus started this thread in the first place.  It said tea and coffee--generalization.

If you read/study further, you will see that she did not say that it was a sin to consume any coffee or tea. In fact, she used coffee herself, but as a medicine. People like weknowinjesusbestimeaheadofus need to stop taking bit sentences and treating them as if they are full quotes.

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