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"Through the two great errors, the immortality of the soul and Sunday sacredness, Satan will bring the people under his deceptions" Great Controversy p. 588.

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord" Isaiah 1:18. If there was ever a man that deserved to go strait to heaven at the point of death it was Jesus Christ! Yet on resurrection morning Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, "Touch Me not, for I am not yet ascended to My Father" John 20:17.

The Son of God who is our example in all things died, was buried, and then after He was resurrected went to heaven. So it is with the Christians.

Then go to heaven

The Apostle Peter who was filled with the Holy Spirit spoke concerning King David; word's too clear to misunderstand. "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the Patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried and his sepulcher is with us to this day" Acts 2:29. For David is NOT ascended into the heavens.

The dead Christians are not ascended into heaven praising God on the streets of gold. "The dead praise not the Lord" Psalms 115:17. According to the prophet David, "In death there is no remembrance of Thee" Psalms 6:5. In fact, the dead have no thoughts or feelings either good or bad while in the grave. "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing... Also their love and their hatred, and their envy is now perished" Ecclesiastes 9:5,6. "His breath goeth forth he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish" Psalms 146:4.

The dead do not communicate with the living! In fact the dead cannot haunt houses either! "He that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more, he shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him anymore" Job 7:9,10.

The fact that all such apparitions are not the dead is the clear teaching. Yet thousands of genuine apparitions appear every month around the globe. What are these? All such apparitions of dead loved ones are demons..

"There is a strong inclination among Catholics who feel constrained to admit the genuineness of spirit-messages to assert that these are produced by the agency of the devil; that the message does not come from any departed friend, but from an evil spirit personating him. We know that Satan is capable of transforming himself into "an angel of light," and he is presumably capable of transforming himself into the likeness of my Uncle John, of mimicking his voice and of reproducing his handwriting. If it be objected that the message contains high and lofty and even Christian sentiments, it may be replied that the evil spirit is deliberately adopting this role in order to deceive us and lead us on so as to ruin our souls."(Donald Hole, Spiritualism and the Church 1929, pp. 65,67.)

Satan used a demon-possessed witch to bring up a familiar spirit that looked and sounded just like the prophet Samuel to bring about the destruction of King Saul (1 Samuel 28). Now in these last days, Satan is using apparitions of dead saints to deceive the world for its destruction. Do not be deceived the Bible says, "Neither have they any portion under the sun" Ecclesiastes 9:6. The Bible says, "the just shall live by his faith" not by what he sees and hears. We cannot depend on our five senses to understand what is truth, rather only in the Word of God! The Word of God condemns all who attempt to contact the dead. For it is in fact communication with devils

"The Catholic Church would not forbid her children to have anything at all to do with this insidious form of necromancy unless she was satisfied that harm only and no good comes out of it. Her experience of Spiritualism covers nearly two thousand years, and she seems to regard it, not as a means of getting into communion with saints, but as a snare trapping you into communion with devils(Bernard Vaughan, Foreword, in Elliot O';Donnell, The Menace of Spiritualism (London: T. Werner Laurie, [1920]), pp. 13.)

"The Romans at first buried their dead in family catacombs, which were excavated outside the city walls and protected by law, but later Romans preferred cremation. The Christians continued the practice of interring the dead in Catacombs, which they called koimetaria, or "sleeping places," to suggest, that for a Christian, death was merely sleep before resurrection."(Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia, Article on, Catacombs.)

At death man is asleep in the grave not knowing anything nor having any thoughts until the resurrection. There to awake to either everlasting life, of everlasting destruction. "The hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28,29. The Bible refers to death as a sleep 66 times. Clearly this is what happens at death! Christians "Sleep in Jesus'; Thessalonians 4:14. "Consider and hear, O LORD my God: lighten my eyes, LEST I SLEEP THE SLEEP OF DEATH" Psalm 13:3

Deut. 31:16__"Thou (Moses) shall sleep with thy fathers"
 Sam. 7:12__"Thou (David) shalt sleep with thy fathers"
 Kings 1:21__ "The king shall sleep with his fathers"
 Kings 2:10__ "So David slept with His fathers"
Job 3_13__ "I should have slept"
Job 7:21__ "Now shall I sleep"
 Psalm 76:5__ "They have slept their sleep"
 Jer. 51:39__ "And sleep a perpetual sleep."
Daniel 12:2__ "Them that sleep in the dust."
Matthew 9:24__ "Is not dead, but sleepeth."
 I Cor. 15:6__ "some are fallen asleep"
 I Cor. 15:51__ "we shall not all sleep"
 Thess. 4:13 "concerning them which are asleep"
 II Peter 3:4 "Since the fathers fell asleep"
John 11:11,14__ "He saith unto them, our friend Lazarus sleepeth... Then Jesus spake unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead."

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I see your list that says 

Then go to heaven

I believe you left out one stage 


Then go to heaven

Jesus did sleep for some 30 odd hours The saint's sleep may perhaps be longer But the stages are the same. 

Thanks for sharing

Sleep is used for death. It doesn't appear to be a separate state 


See: John 11:11-14

"These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead."

Thanks for the correction I was thinking more of a passage like this:

1Ki 2:10  Then David slept with his fathers and was buried in the city of David. 

Where we find David sleeping his fathers and have done so for a long time waiting for the resurrection. could you see sleep as a time of waiting?  

Elijah said, "could you see sleep as a time of waiting?"

Perhaps Job answers that question best. In relation to death he says, "If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness." (Job 17:13)

"If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come." (Job 14:14)

So death can be described as sleep and a time of waiting - but, of course, not in the conscious sense of actively waiting.

Thanks, JohnB that is as I was understanding it.



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