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The reason I ask this is because I recently came across this quote and it confused me:

“God loves honest hearted, truthful children, but cannot love those who are dishonest.” “The Lord loves those little children who try to do right, and He has promised that they shall be in His kingdom. But wicked children God does not love.” “When you feel tempted to speak impatient [sic], remember the Lord sees you, and will not love you if you do wrong.” Ellen G. White, An Appeal to the Youth, pp. 42, 62.

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Hi Sunrise. Appreciate you joining in with the discussion. Would this apply to young children also?
Well sunrise, according to your theology, since you and I are sinners as well, God must hate us, how do we have a chance? If He hates us, the gospel must be a lie, we must still be in our sins and we will all die the second death roasting in flames of fire.

His "Strange act" is done against sinners and fallen angels that He still loves in spite of their sins.
hi. :) I think this question could be a complex one, but the answer may be simpler than we think. When we use certain quotes,whether it be from the Bible,Eg White, or whevever, the context is so imoportant,or else we may read something and take it so out of context and misunderstand not just what God wants, but who He is.
You know how it is when you read something in the Bible, and you just get confused as to why that happened. I.e., when Abraham was called to sacrifice Isaac-*why* such a sacrifice? yet you continue on reading,praying,etc, because though you may not yet understand all you read, other things may help you understand things clearer.. ..
So when you quote from EG White,or read from her, the context, comparing her words with others of a similiar subject, with the Bible, is important when you become confused,discouraged.. Sometimes what you think may be a difficult statement may make sense when you read it in its context...
Again,for example, the same writer who cautioned against sports also encouraged parents to take an interest in their children's sports.. I think the underlying 'principal",as some put it, may be the same, though the way she wrote to different people may be different.
So,for that statement that was quoted...we know I think that God does love sinners. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...""While we were yet sinners Christ died for us" "Christ Jesus came to save sinners,of whom I am chief..." He was called, "friend of sinners.." I could go on and on, using the allegory of Hosea, showing the love of God in sending Jonah to warn the people,knowing they might turn back when they heard the message, (or turn around), but I'll leave that it there...I think though the Bible makes it very clear God does love us,sinners and non alike, hence He send rain on the just and unjust,hence He reaches out as He does to the dying,the lost,hence He gave His life,so we could be saved...
I know again those quotes from Ellen White can be confusing, but to also share some others she has on that sucject,and hopefully maybe get a better picture in a clearer context,here are some more from her own words:
"When Satan comes to tell you that you are a
great sinner, look up to your Redeemer and talk of His merits. That which will help you is to look to His light. Acknowledge your sin, but tell the enemy that "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners" and that you may be saved by His matchless love.
"-from Steps to Christ

" "This man receiveth sinners." The souls who came to Jesus felt in His presence that even for them there was escape from the pit of sin. The Pharisees had only scorn and condemnation for them; but Christ greeted them as children of God, estranged indeed from the Father's house, but not forgotten by the Father's heart. And their very misery and sin made them only the more the objects of His compassion. The farther they had wandered from Him, the more earnest the longing and the greater the sacrifice for their rescue. "-from Christ's Object Lessons
"How much has God loved the race of men?--Look to Calvary."-from "The Mighty and Inspiring Conflict" by EG white
"Jesus would have the fathers and mothers teach their children . . . that God loves them, that their natures may be changed, and brought into harmony with God. Do not teach your children that God does not love them when they do wrong; teach them that He loves them so that it grieves His tender Spirit to see them in transgression, because He knows they are doing injury to their souls. Do not terrify your children by telling them of the wrath of God, but rather seek to impress them with His unspeakable love and goodness, and thus let the glory of the Lord be revealed before them." [2]
"-Ellen White,1892
There are many more we can share on this, that show,truly,God is love,and I think ultimately that's how He wants to be seen. I think it is part of the enemy's plan to get us to doubt God, to doubt His love,who He is,and thus,rather than serve Him from love,we do with fear. But the more we see Him as He is, which I believe He desires, the more we can love Him for who he is too... Thanks for letting me share..
Thank YOU for sharing those wonderful thoughts with us.
"Jesus would have the fathers and mothers teach their children this beauty of character. He would have them teach their children that God loves them, that their natures may be changed, and brought into harmony with God. Do not teach your children that God does not love them when they do wrong; teach them that he loves them so that it grieves his Spirit to see them in transgression, because he knows they are doing injury to their souls. Do not terrify your children by telling them of the wrath of God, but rather seek to impress them with his unspeakable love and goodness, and thus let the glory of the Lord be revealed before them." {BEcho, February 1, 1892 par. 9}
Okay ... now you really have me confused ... which is it?
God's word says so & make no mistake,that God loves & values each one of His children with eternal ,& unconditional love. Does God always love what we do! I think not! I do not even love some of the things I, & others do. God's word also states that He knows not one of mankind are or can ever (within self, our carnal human nature) be good enough! That is exactly why God's only begotten Son,Jesus Christ, died & paid the price for the sins of all, period ! Christ, Himself, stated from the cross, at the exact moment of His death that the plan of salvation,"it Is finished." If this were not so, it would have made no sense whatsoever for God to have done, & made such an ultimate sacrifice of His very own Son! All that is required of all, is to believe, trust in faith within the Lord, & in cooperation within the Holy Spirit's maturing Christlike character within each one in our daily spiritual walk in life, within the Lord,within the Father, within us wthin our spiritual experiences, within the world, but not being of the world. So it is about a personal relationship surrendered within the Lord, & His righteousness, for we(none,not one of us) has any righteousness, it is Christ's righteousness within us that makes anyone righteous. So within the Lord within me(only) am I enabled to "want" to do that which God councels me, & strengthens me to do. Just as the book of James states that "faith without works is died", also works without faith,& a personal relationship surrenered within the Lord also is died. It is not about anyone ( within self), it is all about Christ within us. Yes, it is always all about free will choice, even a choice not to make a free will choice, which is a choice in it's self. It is also a free will choice to mis-quote, quote out of context. Yes, it is God's free will choice to hate sin for what it is & what it has done; but it is also true that God has made a free will choice to love & save "whomsoever beliveth in Him, shall have eternal life."
Some times some will quote something thats out of context unknowingly. Why? Perhaps from a lack of knowledge, and or committment, but perhaps to that person, it may seem proper. Discernment is very important, which means a very real connection to Christ, with prolific study habits. The tares in the church may sometimes choose to take things out of context knowingly, to create confusion, or "stir up the pot" so to speak. If we study to show ourselves approved of God, we will test all things by Isaiah 8:20, and we will know when something is out of context. We need to be careful of bias against an individual as that can color our opinion wrongly. Sometimes we need to wait and consider someting with much prayer and study before coming to a concusion.
Good points, RGR. God loves all of us, especially little children. Jesus took them in His arms and blessed them, and admonished us to be like them - trusting completely. He loves us unconditionally; it's our choice to love Him back and to do that which He has commanded us to do (out of love, not complusion).
God does not hate anyone, including Esau. We must be familiar with Oriental expression to understand this. God hates evil WAYS not the sinner.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
N HIM, Why are you expressing confusion? You have stated many times you do not accept all that EGW says. Now you turn around and say this "confuses" you. I don't buy it.You probably picked up this quote from my thread on Rejection of EGW. Not only that, you did not post the follow up quote nor have you made any attempt at arriving towards any sort of satisfactory explanation as to why the Lord's prophet said this, in spite of the fact I clearly covered this already.

Quite obviously, she said this early on in her career. Her mistake was in not saying that God disapproves of bad little children, instead of saying what she did. Ellen White was also human in need of the Savior's grace and sanctifying power just like all of us, she needed to grow in grace and experience when she made statements that came from herself and not Inspiration.

Here is the follow up quote you neglected to post, that was with my original post on my thread

Do not teach your children that God does not love them when they do wrong; teach them that he loves them so that it grieves his tender Spirit to see them in transgression, because he knows they are doing injury to their souls. Do not terrify your children by telling them of the wrath of God, but rather seek to impress them with his unspeakable love and goodness, and thus let the glory of the Lord be revealed before them.
{ST, February 15, 1892 par. 10}
When you post the quote you did and leave it at that, you can create doubt in the minds of others as to the work of the Holy Spirit. Not as good thing. Ellen White was obviously a sinner too. If you knew in detail all of her sins, would you post those too, to try and prove a point? Are you upholding the real true work of the Holy Spirit, or are you casting discredit upon it?

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