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heres an article i found on another religious website This is very disturbing facts. please share your views on this


On this page I hope to share researchable data with those Seventh-day Adventists that are still members of the General Conference (GC) Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) church that it is time to leave that church as Revelation 18:1-5 declares. My calling is to expose Rome no matter where it rears its ugly head. I warn you in as much Christian love as I can muster and do this only because I love you enough to tell you the absolute truth. The overwhelming proof of Jesuit infiltration into the GC SDA churches has forced me to speak out. And I can only do that which I am created to do.

I recall many years ago as a Catholic that it wasn't until people started warning me about the evil doctrines of Rome that I actually opened a Bible to investigate. That's all I hope this page, and the data offered in it will do for those reading. I see plainly that the Roman Catholic church has completely taken over your church, and I feel it is my Christian duty to warn you. Many of the dear SDA people have never been "in" Rome as I have, therefore they would never see what I, or any other ex-Catholic would see.

I walk into your church today, or read your doctrinal statements, or listen to your emails, or comments online and I see Roman Catholicism alive and well in the SDA church. And as always the case with anything I preach; don't trust me or anyone I link from this page without first opening the Word of God, or even Sister White's writings that most of the SDA people understand as trustworthy to verify these facts for yourself. I implore you as a brother in Christ to at least check it out for yourself. Would you ignore a loud voice that is crying in the late night hour as you sleep to try an awaken you from slumber as the house you are asleep in is on fire? I would hope not. Or what of the man that stops you before you enter an aircraft to warn you he has proof the pilot is drunk? Would you at least check it out? Sure.. most of us would check things out if our physical lives were in danger. So I ask, why is it most people ignore warnings when their spiritual life is in mortal danger?

Another reason I have decided to create this page is because of the graphic upsurge in attacks to my ministry by some SDA people still connected to the GC. This is open evidence to me that the Roman Catholic spirit is very active in this church. I have seen this in the past by Roman Catholics, and now I see this to be the case with the SDA people. I will not mention the attackers names on this site, nor will I ever share links to their websites mainly because most of them attack with the hopes of gaining exposure that will benefit their ministry in some strange way. I will not help them gain attention in any way shape or form. They seek recognition only to sew discord among the brethren, and I will have no part in that. It is plainly written in the Word...

1 Timothy 6:3-5, "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself."

Still, I ask, why are they doing this? Well, it's actually rather simple... Satan is busying cultivating the very people he will use to do what prophecy, as well as what Sister White says they will eventually do in the soon coming days. They need to shut up the truth so sin can be embraced and the mark of Rome enforced. The SDA church MUST be infiltrated deep within if Satan's plans are going to work effectively. The SDA is a well known church for exposing Antichrist in the not so distant past. Common sense is that if an enemy wants to defeat their foe, they will always infiltrate from within so as to better control their enemy when the time to conquer draws near. These attacks from the SDA people are easy to discern warning signs that some of them are being directly manipulated by Satan. This manipulation will eventually cause them to "report us" to the authorities when the Sunday Laws arrive. Sister White even says that "Satan raises an excitement in these religious bodies, that those who have rejected the truth may think that God is with them." (EW p261) This is why some of those that at one time were like minded brethren now come against those that have left the church to follow Christ. Sadly, Sister White actually predicts that end result...

"I saw the nominal church and nominal Adventists, like Judas, would betray us to the Catholics to obtain their influence to come against the truth. The saints then will be an obscure people, little known to the Catholics; but the churches and nominal Adventists who know of our faith and customs (for they hated us on account of the Sabbath, for they could not refute it) will betray the saints and report them to the Catholics as those who disregard the institutions of the people; that is, that they keep the Sabbath and disregard Sunday." E.G. White, Spalding--Magan Unpublished Testimonies, p. 1.

This attack is an exact duplicate of what the Roman Catholic church did in the past. Her bloody fingerprints are becoming more and more apparent with each and every day on this. This was prophesied to occur both in the Word of God as well as from the mouth of the Prophet the SDA people hold so dear. This is also a graphic sign that we are a LOT closer to the end of all things. I shout boldly, MARANATHA!

Pray for them! Pray the virgins awaken and gather enough Oil before it is too late and they refuse to walk in the path of the Lord and reject the mighty works and great light that was done before their very eyes. Pray the heed the call of the fourth and FINAL angel to COME OUT OF BABYLON!

Of those who boast of their light, and yet fail to walk in it, Christ says, "But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum [Seventh-day Adventists, who have had great light], which art exalted unto heaven [in point of privilege], shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee." At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent [in their own estimation], and hast revealed them unto babes." -Review and Herald August 1, 1893 par. 5. (Bracketed comments were made by Ellen White)

“The Spirit is poured out upon all who will yield to its promptings, and casting off all man’s machinery, his binding rules and cautious methods, they will declare the truth with the might of the Spirit’s power. Multitudes will receive the faith and join the armies of the Lord…The safeguards which false shepherds have thrown around their flocks with become as naught; thousands will step out into the light, and work to spread the light.” -Review and Herald, vol 3, p 272-275 (July 16 & 23, 1895)

“We shall be called to meet those who notwithstanding definite reproof and warning through the Testimonies have gone on in an evil course. We are bidden of God to hold ourselves separate and distinct from these men who have not given heed to His warning… For they deceive , if possible , the very elect.-Letter 330, November 11, 1906 & Manuscript Releases, vol 7, 196

“Now we see [the] need of workers in the opening fields before us, but where are the men that can be trusted? Where are the men who year by year have been growing into a better knowledge of God and His ways and the movings of His providence? I want to sound in the ears of these sleepy, half-paralyzed souls the words spoken to Nicodemus, "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God" [John 3:5]. There is need to seek God with all the heart. Elevate the standard. The commonness, the cheapness of conversation, reveal the measure of the spirituality of members of the church. Now those who have had years in this same experience, know not God nor Jesus Christ whom He has sent, and should such go forth as representatives of Jesus Christ? These men will never give the right mold to other minds; they have grown up to the full stature of men and women in Christ. They simply have the name of Christians but are not fitted for the work of God, and never will be until they are born again, and learn the A.B.C. in true religion of Jesus Christ. There is a little hope in one direction: Take the young men and women, and place them where they will come as little in contact with our churches as possible, that the low grad of piety which is current in the day shall not leaven their ideas of what it means to be a Christian.” -Letter 16f, May 9, 1892 & Manuscript Releases, vol 12, p 332-333

When the men that are called by our Lord to lead His people see no wrong in joining with the Pope in doctrinal issues, it is clear they are no longer standing on the side of Truth. When they make statements declaring the Prophecies of our Lord worthy of a "trash heap" we see a man standing in agreement with Rome. Sadly that man stands at the head of the SDA church. Back in 1974 in yet another court case, we see Neal C. Wilson, acting President of the GC SDA church at the time, making the following statements concerning our Lord's prophecy regarding the beast in Rome...

"Although it is true that there was a period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the denomination took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint...that attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a manifestation of widespread anti-popery among conservative Protestant denominations in the early part of this century and the latter part of the last, and which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap so far as the Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned." (Neal C. Wilson, past president of the Seventh-day Adventist General Conference, Court Transcript of United States vs the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission vs the Pacific Press Publishing Association and the General Conference, Reply Brief for Defendants, p 4, Civil Case #74-2025 CBR, presided over by Judge Charles B. Renfrew, U.S. District Court, San Francisco, California, 1974-1975.)

"there is another universal and truly catholic organization, the Seventh-day Adventist Church." (Neal C. Wilson, General Conference President of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, in Adventist Review, March 5, 1981, p 3).

That statement alone caused a multitude to "come out of her" that day. And rightly so! For a man to declare the Lord's prophetic facts to be worthy of the trash heap, is a man most assuredly speaking for Rome. For it is only Rome that seeks to ridicule and mock the Lord of lords and King of kings. The Remnant of God can only go withesoever the Lamb leadeth!

“In the representations the Lord has given me, I have seen those who follow their own desires, misrepresenting the truth, oppressing their brethren, and placing difficulties before them. Characters are now being developed, and men are taking sides, some on the side of the Lord Jesus Christ, some on the side of Satan and his angels. The Lord calls for all who will be true and obedient to His law to come out of and away from all connection with those who placed themselves on the side of the enemy.” -Letter 256, August 1, 1906 & Last Day Events fro the Letters and Manuscripts of E.G. White, p 94 & This Day With God, p 222

The Word says in 2 Corinthians 6:17 that we should, "...come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," Yet the leaders of this church say to stay IN an aspostized church?

"There are professedly pious men who screen the sinner by their own transgression. They disregard the commandments of God, choosing the traditions of men, making void the law of God, and promoting apostasy. The excuses they make are feeble and weak and will bring destruction to their own souls and the souls of others. . . .
Upon those who have taken upon them the work of shepherds of the flock, will be visited the heaviest judgments, because they have presented to the people fables instead of truth. Children will rise up and curse their parents. Church members, who have seen the light and been convicted, but who have trusted the salvation of their souls to the minister, will learn in the day of God that no other soul can pay the ransom for their transgression. A terrible cry will be raised, "I am lost, eternally lost." Men will feel as though they could rend in pieces the ministers who have preached falsehoods and condemned the truth. The pure truth for this time requires a reformation in the life, but they separate themselves from the love of the truth, and of them it can be said, "O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself." The Lord sends a message to the people, "Set a trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the Lord, because they have transgressed my covenant and trespassed against my law" (Letter 30, 1900). -SDA Bible Commentary, Vol 4 page 1157.par 1,2}

The Seventh-day Adventist church has been consumed by Rome. They have discarded the Truths it was founded on. They have embraced all that Rome has to offer. The Religion HAS BEEN CHANGED!

The enemy of souls, has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result?—The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that has sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built upton the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure. -Letter 242, October 1903 & Special Testimonies, Series B #7, p. 36-42

“I am charged to tell our people, that do not realize, that the devil has device after device, and he carries them out in ways that they do not expect. Satan’s agencies will invent ways to make sinners out of saints. I tell you now, that when I am laid to rest, great changes will take place. I do not know when I shall be taken; and I desire to warn all against the devices of the devil. I want the people to know that I warned them fully before my death.” - Manuscript 1, February 24, 1915

"In the balances of the sanctuary the Seventh-day Adventist church is to be weighed. She will be judged by the privileges and advantages that she has had. If her spiritual experience does not correspond to the advantages that Christ, at infinite cost, has bestowed on her, if the blessings conferred have not qualified her to do the work entrusted to her, on her will be pronounced the sentence: 'Found wanting.' By the light bestowed, the opportunities given, will she be judged." -Testimonies Vol 8 247

"The Lord Jesus will always have a chosen people to serve Him. When the Jewish people rejected Christ, the Prince of life, He took from them the kingdom of God and gave it unto the Gentiles. God will continue to work on this principle with every branch of His WORK. When a church proves unfaithful to the WORK of the Lord, whatever their position may be, however high and sacred their calling [even the SDA Conference], the Lord can no longer WORK with them. OTHERS are then chosen to bear important responsibilities." -Upward Look p.131

One thing I have noticed over the last few years of seeking to help SDA people is that they are using the same methods Catholics use to stay in their churches. As many know my main site is That site is a compilation of studies and facts proving the Roman Catholic Vatican to be the house of Antichrist. For over 22 years I have been evangelizing Catholics mainly because so many of my loved ones are still trapped in there. I was raised in a devout Catholic family and became devout in my early 20's myself. So devout in fact that I went to mass daily, said the rosary each and every day, was a eucharistic minister each Sunday, and even taught Catholic doctrine for the church. After I left and started Presents of God ministry in 1985 to try and help Catholics see what I saw in prophecy, one thing I always heard from the Catholic people was that they knew their leaders were in apostasy, and they felt that one day right before Christ would come all would be made right and all the wicked leaders would be cast from the church. What shocks me is, I have found the SDA people are also using the exact same excuse to stay in apostasy today. Every SDA person I meet echoes this Catholic excuse. Praise the Lord some understand the truth the Lord has allowed me to share and they leave before it's too late. Still, I find it amazing to see how many people are lead by Satan onto the exact same paths that teach them it is perfectly acceptable to stand with those that love sin in the hopes that Jesus will perform a miracle one day to remove the sinners. My question is, when was the last time you ever heard a sinner doing God's will, or God performing a miracle that doesn't require His people to step forth in faith first? It's always the believer that is moved by Jesus that experiences His hand move. Jesus will NOT stand with those in an apostate church if they refuse to do as He declares is necessary in the first place...

2 Corinthians 6:17, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"

My Bible tells me that if you do as the LORD demands, He will do as He promised. If you refuse to "come out" He will not "receive you." It can't be any plainer then that. Is it that the SDA people believe they are immune to the 3 angels message? It appears so! Somehow Satan has been able to make them feel they are not to be held accountable for ignoring the Word of God when it plainly says to leave such churches immediately.

Now, yes I realize that some SDA people feel their church is not Babylon at this time. At this point in time does it really matter? Seriously! Let's look at the basic facts for what they are and use common sense here. The Bibles says to come out of Babylon, yes. That much is well understood by almost every SDA person you meet. What seems unclear to the dear SDA people is that the Bible also says to come out of apostized churches as well! Yet.. they refuse because they feel so strongly that their churhcis not Babylon. This is an amazing twist on reality that only a demon can perfom upon the minds of those that give permission. How does the enemy of souls get to them so easily..?
"By associating with those whom they should avoid, they place themselves in the way of temptation. They invite the enemy to tempt them, and are led to say and do that of which under other circumstances they would never have been guilty." -Desire of ages p712.1

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Apostasy Apostasy, these guys are in Apostasy According to revelations the SDA Church is the final and last church


Most Seventh-day Adventist would agree that the church is in need of revival, and reformation.  The Spirit of Prophecy affirms this perceived need:

                “A revival of true godliness among us is the greatest and most urgent of all our needs.  To seek this should be our first work. . . .”  “A revival and a reformation must take place under the ministration of the Holy Spirit.”  (Selected Mes-sages, vol. 1, pp. 121,128).


Yes, Ellen White called for revival and reformation.  But you are aware that she also warned of “a condition of anarchy and wild uncertainty” that  “will seek to pervade of all ranks of Seventh-day Adventists”?  (Letter 40a, 1897).   In other words, the Seventh-day Adventist church is going to experience an uprising of internal forces that will attempt to break its system of organization and abandon the legitimate, God-ordained authority of its leadership.  A spirit of independence will threaten to fragment the church into a disorderly array of autonomous movements.  Will members will become wildly uncertain as to the church’s standing and authority. 


“If the world sees a perfect harmony existing in the church of God, it will be a powerful evidence to them in favor of the Christian religion.  Dissensions, un-happy differences and church trials dishonor our Redeemer.  All these may be avoided if self is surrendered to God and the followers of Jesus obey the voice of the church.  Unbelief suggests that individual independence increases our importance, that it is weak to yield our own ideas of what is right and proper to the verdict of the church; but to yield to such feelings and views is unsafe and will bring us into anarchy and confusion.  .  .   Let individual judgment submit to the authority of the church.”  (Testimony for the Church, vol 4, page 19).


The principles here expressed speak so directly to some professional re-formers that I would venture to say they will find it hard to believe Ellen White really said such things.  “Obey the voice of the church”?  “Individual independence . . .  will bring us anarchy and confusion”?  “Let individual judgment submit to the authority of the church”?  Did she really write such things?  Yes, and if you think the ideas expressed in this quotations are heavy, your head will really spin when you read this:  “The Redeemer of the world does not sanction experience and exercise in religious matters independent of His organized and acknowledged church.”  (Sketchers for the Life of Paul, page 31)

“I know that the Lord loves His church.  It is not to be disorganized or broken up into independent atoms.   It  is not the least consistency in this, there is not the least evidence that such a thing will b e.”  (The Remnant Church, p 53)

“We cannot now step off the foundation that God has established.  We cannot now enter into any new organization; for this would mean apostasy from the truth.” (Selected Messages, vol. 2, page 390.)

                “God has a church upon the earth, who are His chosen people, who keep His commandments.  He is leading not stray off-shoots, not one here and one there, but a people.” (Review and Herald, vol. 3, p. 82)

“I am instructed to say to Seventh-day Adventists the world over, God has called us as a people to be a peculiar treasure unto Himself.  He as appointed that His church on earth shall stand perfectly united in the Spirit and counsel of the Lord of hosts to the end of time” (Selected  Messages, vol 2, p. 397). 


“No advice or sanction is given in the Word of God to those who believe the third angel’s message to lead them to suppose that they can draw apart.  This you may settle with yourselves forever.  It is the devising of unsanctified that would encourage a state of disunion. . . .

                “There must be no separating [of the faithful from the church] in this great testing time” (Selected  Messages, vol. 3, p. 21; words in brackets added for contextual clarity.)

 There is no inspired word, either in the Bible or the Spirit of Prophecy that foretells the failure of the Advent movement and the rising of another.  According to Revelation, which is the last book of the Bible, the prophetic agenda reads like this: 

  • the apostolic church replaces Israel (see Revelation 12:1,2).
  • The Christian church is displaced by a massive counterfeit sys-tem by which the faithful are persecuted (see Revelation 12:6,12-15).
  • The remnant church emerges in America and the dragon makes war on her (see Revelation 12:16,17).
  • The remnant church passes through a great disappointment but rises out of it to prophecy again before many nations and languages  (see Revelation 10).
  • The great, final test comes upon the world as the remnant church proclaims the three angels’ messages (see Revelation 13 and 14).
  • The harvest of the earth is reaped and Jesus returns  (see Revelation 14:14-20.)


That’s the whole story as it appears in prophecy.  There is absolutely no indication that this scenario is conditional or that another movement beyond the remnant will arise.

The very same conclusion is clear in the earlier prophecy of the seven churches.  Each successive church reveals the progressive developments and transitions that God’s people experience down through history.  Ephesus introduces the early apostolic church.  Pergamus and Thyatira reveal the formation and fall of the papacy.  Sardis brings to view the rise and fall of Protestantism.  Philadelphia present the birth of Adventism and the opening of the judgment in heaven.  Finally, Laodicea concludes the picture by describing the lukewarm condition that would paralyze Adventism.  A divine diagnosis is made.  A remedy is prescribed.  And a promise of high honor is given to all who overcomes the sleepy plight of Laodicea.  But no denunciation is issued. 

There are only seven churches, not eight.  Seven is the prophetic number for completion, which indicates that God will finish His plan within the framework of the seven churches with no need for an eighth.  The cycle of rising and falling churches ends with the seventh church.  Some overcome and some do not, but no new movement emerges.

Both the remnant church in Revelation 12, and the Laodicean church in Revelation 3 are identified in the Spirit of Prophecy as symbolic representations of the organized Seventh-day Adventist Church.  This being the case, logic drives us to the conclusion that the Seventh-day Adventist Church will continue as God’s recognized movement “until the end of time.”  To draw any other conclusion would be to believe that God’s prophetic glance failed to see all the way down to our time and beyond.  It would also require us to venture out beyond what is writ-ten in prophecy and take a blind leap into a new movement nowhere foretold in the word of God.  The One who knows the end from the beginning just does not work this way.  “Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets”  ( Amos 3:7). 

For years I have borne my testimony to the effect that when any arise claiming to have great light, and yet advocating the tearing down of that which the Lord through His human agents has been building up, they are greatly deceived, and are not working along the lines where Christ is working. Those who assert that the Seventh-day Adventist churches constitute Babylon, or any part of Babylon, might better stay at home. Let them stop and consider what is the message to be proclaimed at this time. In place of working with divine agencies to prepare a people to stand in the day of the Lord, they have taken their stand with him who is an accuser of the brethren, who accuses them before God day and night. ...

Although there are evils existing in the church, and will be until the end of the world, the church in these last days is to be the light of the world that is polluted and demoralized by sin. The church, enfeebled and defective, needing to be reproved, warned, and counseled, is the only object upon earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard. The world is a workshop in which, through the co-operation of human and divine agencies, Jesus is making experiments by His grace and divine mercy upon human hearts.

Angels are amazed as they behold the transformation of character brought about in those who yield themselves to God, and they express their joy in songs of rapturous praise to God and to the Lamb. They see those who are by nature the children of wrath, converted and becoming laborers together with Christ in drawing souls to God. They see those who were in darkness becoming lights to shine amid the moral night of this wicked and perverse generation. They*1893 (first published), Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, 36-62.

In my view, Catholic bashing was a problem in Ellen White's day, and it is still a problem today.

Truth must be given, but much of what we now have (with regards to 'exposing' the Catholic Church) does not help anyone. Ellen White commented,

“Brethren, I feel hurt when I see that so many decided thrusts are made against the Catholics. Preach the truth, but restrain the words which show a harsh spirit; for such words cannot help or enlighten anyone.” (Counsels to Writers and Editors p.64)

“It is true that we are commanded to "cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins." Isaiah 58:1. This message must be given; but while it must be given, we should be careful not to thrust and crowd and condemn those who have not the light that we have. We should not go out of our way to make hard thrusts at the Catholics. Among the Catholics there are many who are most conscientious Christians and who walk in all the light that shines upon them, and God will work in their behalf.” (9Testimonies p.243)

"The best way to expose the fallacy of error is to present the evidences of truth. This is the greatest rebuke that can be given to error." (Evangelism p.170)

JayExodus does not mention anything about Jesus and His love. Nothing even reminiscent of Christ in his post. His posting appears very anti-Christ. Very dangerous.

QUOTE "The overwhelming proof of Jesuit infiltration into the GC SDA churches has forced me to speak out. And I can only do that which I am created to do.

Isa 8:12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.
 13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him "Yahweh" be your dread.

Why all this worry over a failing church ? A church is an assembly of people. There are over 500 church assemblies out there keeping the seventh day Sabbath and other Scriptures, apart from SDA. So if there is a better sola scriptoria assembly near where you live, than as light on a hill, make the spark of fire and get the world on fire for Jesus, if there is no better assembly, start with your own home church....and seek Jesus....

yourself with others as you witness.....

The general conference is not the Home Church, we are the living stones of Jesus, the light of His will on Him, not come along to warm some pew...once a Jesus daily....

Re 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

No command to leave the assembly here....

Re 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people,

The word "Babylon" is not a word for "church" or "assembly" , the term can mean a church, but this word stems from "Baal" or "Confusion" and in Ancient Hebrew refers to "home effort that comes to nothing" it is a person who is in legalism, trying to save himself with self powered effort.  And yes Baal is very much in SDA people who come weekly to make up the Assembly or Church. But Babylon is not a church as such, but a system of churches who practice Baal, the religion named in the OT, that opposes God's religion, which has no name, but in Hebrew, those who crossed over from death unto life, and followed Jesus and were later known as Christians.

So leaving the SDA church does not make Baal go away, Baal or Babylon is within us, only God can take Babylon out of our lives, hence the message, come out of Baal my people...sure it will become a global system of Baal, but for now I see running away from one church to another is not going to help....the real problems of apostasy is legalism and that is within ourselves.


I dont know what you are insinuating but this is what i typed.

"heres an article i found on another religious website This is very disturbing facts. please share your views on this"

tell me where in this led you to jump to the anti-christ conclusion?

you are taking your facts from  adsapostasy website. Do you believe that the SDA church is in apostasy? 

i dont know what to believe at this time. that is why i sought clarification on the matter here. i mean when you have a decorated Pastor of the sda church promoting non-christian views i cannot say i dont think the church is in apostasy.

well prophecy has failed right? You see some church members are in apostasy but the church is not in apostasy.  

Who do you believe is behind this site you frequent for you information? It is Satan himself 

Has God no living church? He has a church, but it is the church militant, not the church triumphant. We are sorry that there are defective members, that there are tares amid the wheat….Let all be careful not to make an outcry against the only people who are fulfilling the description given of the remnant people who keep the commandments of God and have faith in Jesus…. God has a distinct people, a church on earth, second to none, but superior to all in their facilities to teach the truth, to vindicate the law of God.” — TM 45, 58. 

When anyone is drawing apart from the organized body of God’s commandment-keeping people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human scales and begins to pronounce judgment against them, then you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the wrong track.” — 3SM 18.


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