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I've heard about the 14th Amendment in church last Sabbath.  Does this mean if it is repealed that there is going to be a National Sunday Law enforced in winter time.  Let me know what you guys think about this please.

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Hello Andrew I do not know much about the 14th amendment so I looked up Vikipedia and to me it looks like a very complex piece of law. 

The Fourteenth Amendment (Amendment XIV) to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction Amendments. Arguably one of the most consequential amendments to this day, the amendment addresses citizenship rights and equal protection of the laws and was proposed in response to issues related to former slaves following the American Civil War. The amendment was bitterly contested, particularly by the states of the defeated Confederacy, which were forced to ratify it in order to regain representation in Congress. The amendment, particularly its first section, is one of the most litigated parts of the Constitution, forming the basis for landmark decisions such as Brown v. Board of Education (1954) regarding racial segregation, Roe v. Wade (1973) regarding abortion, Bush v. Gore (2000) regarding the 2000 presidential election, and Obergefell v. Hodges (2015) regarding same-sex marriage. The amendment limits the actions of all state and local officials, including those acting on behalf of such an official.

The amendment's first section includes several clauses: the Citizenship Clause, Privileges or Immunities Clause, Due Process Clause, and Equal Protection Clause. The Citizenship Clause provides a broad definition of citizenship, nullifying the Supreme Court's decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), which had held that Americans descended from African slaves could not be citizens of the United States. Since the Slaughter-House Cases (1873), the Privileges or Immunities Clause has been interpreted to do very little.

The Due Process Clause prohibits state and local government officials from depriving persons of life, liberty, or property without legislative authorization. This clause has also been used by the federal judiciary to make most of the Bill of Rights applicable to the states, as well as to recognize substantive and procedural requirements that state laws must satisfy. The Equal Protection Clause requires each state to provide equal protection under the law to all people, including all non-citizens, within its jurisdiction. This clause has been the basis for many decisions rejecting irrational or unnecessary discrimination against people belonging to various groups.

The second, third, and fourth sections of the amendment are seldom litigated. However, the second section's reference to "rebellion and other crime" has been invoked as a constitutional ground for felony disenfranchisement. The fourth section was held, in Perry v. United States (1935), to prohibit a current Congress from abrogating a contract of debt incurred by a prior Congress. The fifth section gives Congress the power to enforce the amendment's provisions by "appropriate legislation"; however, under City of Boerne v. Flores (1997), this power may not be used to contradict a Supreme Court decision interpreting the amendment.

Trump thinks he can change parts of it maybe he can seeing he managed to install Kavanaugh in the High court.

With days remaining before the mid-term elections, Donald Trump says that he plans an executive order that would end the practice of bestowing U.S. citizenship onto babies born in the U.S. to non-citizen parents, eliminating a long-term practice.

Such a dramatic move would certainly bring legal challenges, because the 14thAmendment of the Constitution actually extends citizenship to “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Clearly, the president has been working overtime to make immigration issues the top concern for the elections. He doubled down on his vow again yesterday, as noted in a smart piece by The New York Times’ Peter Baker, of seeking a wide variety of fear-evoking pleas to close out the campaign against Democrats.

"With days remaining before the mid-term elections, Donald Trump says that he plans an executive order that would end the practice of bestowing U.S. citizenship onto babies born in the U.S. to non-citizen parents, eliminating a long-term practice."

I have mixed opinions about the executive order by President Trump. So my parents came legally so I'm not worried about losing my natural born citizenship. My parents are from Ecuador, they don't grant citizenship to non citizens parent as well but tinkering with the 14th Amendment can pose legal challenges. 

The citizens of the United States of America according to 1 elder in the Hazelton SDA church states that repealing of the 14th Amendment will lead or bring the National Sunday Law enforcement.  He said that the first part to the 14th Amendment is the important part to protecting liberties.

I believe that could be quite correct Andrew, not that I understand a lot about this law but as it says above on my post, it is a very wide-ranging in scope and could well curtail religious liberty. Ironic is it not as the constitution was founded on just that religious liberty.  

When President John F Kennedy became President a lot of Adventist thought that the Sunday law will be enforced. He was Roman Catholic so what’s your point? 

Gabe the Point being your beloved President Trump is fiddling with the 14th amendment Your own citizenship may be under question also. 


My own citizenship, what do you mean? 

Gabe was you not born in the US by Parents who were not a citizen of US?

If you scroll up just a tad, they migrated legally,. They had their residency. The law will appliy to parents who came illegally. Also, they became naturalized as U.S. citizens.

OK good to hear you can remain in the US and vote for Trump 2020 then if he is still in office that is. He is going to need all support he can ever have.

I'm not clear where this discussion fits into Sunday laws but can I say I don't believe any Sunday laws will be coming our way while we, as a Church, already enforce Sunday in five Pacific Island nations where we officially keep Sunday as the Sabbath. Why does America need to impose Sunday laws, we have our own!


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