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MATT 8

And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him,

And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented.

And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.

The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.

For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.

10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

 

LUKE 7

 

7 Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum.

And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.

And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.

And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:

For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.

Then Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying unto him, Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof:

Wherefore neither thought I myself worthy to come unto thee: but say in a word, and my servant shall be healed.

For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.

When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

10 And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick.

 

of course given the sins of Rome and  Roman Soldiers being transplanted thru out the Empire (psst.. ISRAEL) to make sure of stability and whatnot... :P

A Gay Centurion
Comes Out To Jesus

For many centuries before Matthew and Luke wrote their Gospels, the Greek word pais was commonly used to refer to the younger partner in a same sex relationship. The younger partner was often an adult male but was sometimes a teenager.

The use of pais in this social and historical context leads some to believe that the story of the Roman centurion and his pais in Matthew 8 and Luke 7 tells the real story of the day Jesus met and blessed a gay man. Although this understanding of the text is controversial, it is important for us to discuss and understand it in our conversation about the Bible and homosexuality.

As we begin our study of this true story about a gay Centurion, from Matthew 8:5-13 & Luke 7:1-10, it is important to remember that we are two thousand years removed from these events. For that reason, traditionalists cannot prove their contention, that the centurion and his pais-servant, were not same sex lovers. It is equally impossible to prove to everyone’s satisfaction, that this was a gay centurion and his pais-beloved-gay lover.

 


Jesus meets
a gay centurion


If we cannot prove, to everyone’s satisfaction, that this story is about a gay centurion, why bother discussing this controversy?

The short answer is that scripture is important and what we believe, based on scripture, is important. For centuries, the organized church has insisted gay people are never presented in the Bible in a positive light.

Many Christians refuse to believe that God would include a positive story about a gay Centurion in the Bible. In recent centuries, many openly gay Christians have been excluded from the spiritual life of the church.

Our goal is to examine the available evidence. If the evidence and a faithful, believing approach to scripture supports the understanding that this story is about a gay centurion and his pais-same sex lover, that dramatic fact should be public knowledge.

there was paganism/temple rites and pediophilia and sexual slavery in the empire also in honour of their own gods and whims

SOME CAME TO THE SAVING KNOWLEDGE AND SAD JUST LIKE WITH THE HETEROSEXUAL COUNTERPARTS MANY DID NOT

CAUSE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE WHEREVER YOU GO

:)

Jesus never asked what lifestyle they live before HE healed them

Who ever so ever came to HIM was healed

period!

 

MAN WHAT A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can anyone else think of a better way to share to a broken LGBTQIAA

to open the heart to this wonderful GOD for ultimate healing?

ouside of John 3:16 and Jer 31:3 Zeph 3:17  Rom 5:8 and Rom 8:1.. well i can go on and on :)

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You disgust me.  You inserted the care of the Centurion for his servant as some sort of perverse gay agenda.  They were NOT homosexuals, nor is there ANY Biblical support for such a perverse and sinful insertion.  The reason the Centurion did not want Jesus to approach, is:

1. He had greater faith.

2. He know it was forbidden for Jew to enter a Gentile's home.

What you won't sink to, for force homosexuality into every corner of Godliness is beyond the pale.  You should be ashamed.

maybe if i disgust you you will stop talking to me here

u cant share JESUS with those that you disgusted with or look down upon

(uhh.. not to imply you were sharing JESUS in the first place)

so whats the point of ever talking to me :P

:PPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

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ive been written off by you with much fondness?

that's fine

( i will get by without your opinions?)

.

not here to please u but to share what JESUS can do for gays and did for me

He saved meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Heisenberg

the Pharasees in JESUS day called JESUS a friend of sinners as a putdown

remember:)

maybe my thread can breath better  without your  limited inclusive fire breathing image of GOD that isnt GOD

 God be with you

so long

farewell

abshied to you

.

#silence is golden

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You disgust me.  You inserted the care of the Centurion for his servant as some sort of perverse gay agenda.  They were NOT homosexuals, nor is there ANY Biblical support for such a perverse and sinful insertion.  The reason the Centurion did not want Jesus to approach, is:

1. He had greater faith.

2. He know it was forbidden for Jew to enter a Gentile's home.

What you won't sink to, for force homosexuality into every corner of Godliness is beyond the pale.  You should be ashamed. -Heisenberg

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the Bible doesnt list all the Centurian sins or err ....maybe broke a few commandments? or levitical sins?

You disgust me.  You inserted the care of the Centurion for his servant as some sort of perverse gay agenda.  They were NOT homosexuals, nor is there ANY Biblical support for such a perverse and sinful insertion.  The reason the Centurion did not want Jesus to approach, is:

1. He had greater faith.

2. He know it was forbidden for Jew to enter a Gentile's home.

What you won't sink to, for force homosexuality into every corner of Godliness is beyond the pale.  You should be ashamed.

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 the issue is you dont see gay people as human

you dont see them as humans

you think God came down to heal and save straights only?

HE loves you too

and me

and the gay romans

and the drag queens

only hung around a few types of sinners?

not the gays ones huh?

i disgust you?

i pity you!

 my friend

" i am glad im not like that sinner!" mentality :(

God bless you Heisenberg

and have a nice day

# REVELATION

# EPIPHANY

#HEART CHANGE

one day God will show you his heart toward ALL people not only the ones you care for

( I HOPE)

No, the issue is you can't seen anything but gay, to the point you have blasphemed the scripture, and the very name of Jesus.  You slandered two innocent and Godly figures in scripture, by asserting your nasty, unwholesome agenda of making everything about homosexuality.  That disgusts me.  It is a clear and obvious violation of scripture.

What's next, are you going to imply that the disciple that Jesus loved, that they had some weird gay relationship too?

i disgust you

u  can share your thoughts with people you dont look down on

okie dokie

bubye

Is it possible to have a thread that's not about homosexuals? 

Yes, your blatant abuse of scripture to turn it into something perverted and sinful disgusts me beyond words.

Righteous indignation ....smh. 

Hello MFG, I don't come here that much because some people here are very mean to you and not much nicer to me and others either and it's hard to watch. The thought that Jesus would stoop low and heal a homosexuals lover gives me great hope. Even though I am not gay, I am what Paul says the chief of sinners. I think it seems the grace of God is an offense to some.

Thank you MFG for putting this thread up, God has been so good to me also!

#apparently a prerequisite to be healed by Jesus is to be straight...lol

The idea that people would force sin in the Bible and accuse Godly people of the sin of homosexuality in order to justify sin is just plain evil.

Well Timber. They just exposing their agenda of hatred.  There is nothing wrong with a gay or lesbian person going to seek Jesus. These fundamentals hate it I know because they think that they own Jesus but gay people should not fear. They  should go to church regardless because Jesus wants them there.

 "They just exposing their agenda of hatred" 

Calling people you do not know is a way restricting the free speech of opposition, obtaining special treatment for homosexuals, distorting Biblical teaching and science, and interfering with freedom of association. Advocates of the homosexual agenda seek special rights for homosexuals that other people don't have, such as immunity from criticism (see hate speech, hate crimes). Such special rights will necessarily come at the expense of the rights of broader society. 

opinions are great. They allow people to share their thoughts on something, and contribute to a conversation that otherwise may have passed them by.

Opposing opinions are even better, as they stop us from becoming too ego-centric and full of our own bunkum. Opposing opinions can make us re-evaluate our viewpoints with fact and make us better people for learning new ideas.

Of course, the problem with having opposing opinions to something is that, often, the people you’re questioning don’t like it. So they get snarky. Or, if that person’s a blogger, their adoring fans respond to your comment with a “Haters gonna hate” reply.

You want hate? Try being gay in Jamaica. Or try being ethnic in some parts of Canada. Or try being a woman in Afghanistan. Or try expressing your civil rights in Equatorial Guinea.

That’s hate, right there. Where your life is about as valued as dog crap. The people living in these places and experiencing that hate every day would laugh in your face if you said an opinion on a blog post, or an online thought, meant you were a hater.

The sad thing is, it’s becoming more common to use the “haters gonna hate” excuse for countering a different opinion. I’ve seen social media leaders use it, or not do anything to discourage it in their readers, and I’ve seen people use it more when someone expresses a valid opinion or counter-point.

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