I have seen suggestions on this board suggesting that the Adventist church conduct gay weddings, and other that gays not be allowed to attend Adventist chruches. Neither of those are going to happen, so its important to discuss what role gays do have in the church.
"Sadly, I suspect there would be gasps of horror in the Netherlands if I brought in a bevy of extra wives, but applause if I came in holding hands with one of my male friends."
Can anyone speak to this hypocrisy, it is so blatant? It is always glossed over.
I was right, I will not get an answer to this question of hypocrisy.
It is saying we should accept homosexual unions as full members. We should not.
Where in the Bible does it say that gays should not be church members?
1 Corinthians 5:9-12, "I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”[d]
Is that succinct enough? Or would the folks from the Netherlands simply say, it is just another one of God's suggestions?
If the Holy Spirit can convict an Alcoholic and make him or her want to be sober can the same Holy Spirit make a man or women want to stop doing doing deviant acts of abuse. When I see a gay person I do not see what they do. I see a whole person. Is not God a God that can bring a man or woman back to the ideal that was at the Garden of Eden before the fall.
The question is, God can heal all sinners and make mankind whole just not gays because that is just to hard for God, besides they (gays) would hate it?
Only heterosexuals can fornicate or commit adultery?
In our society, it is OK to make fun of or discriminate Christians but homosexuals are protected. So who is going to make Christians feel safe?
JESUS tells the LGBTI community that HE loves them now with an everlasting love and they are fearfully and wonderfully made
seems to say that i was saying that God makes homosexuals
that is another thread topic
of which i am not addressing here
God has fearfully and wonderfully made you all
and loves you all with an everlasting love
but it doesn't apply to other people???
#Jesus made us all and died for us all...PERIOD!
"JESUS tells the LGBTI community that... they are fearfully and wonderfully made"
This is a fanciful statement plucked out of thin air with no basis in the Word of God.
God certainly does love sinners- but He calls them to repentance because He is mighty to save.
I agree with Bart that this and WO are integrally associated. As far as the post, there is an extremely fine line between embracing gay church members and performing gay weddings. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to say that we should allow people living in open sin as members and not expect that to lead to gay weddings. Besides that this is a distinction based on opinion rather than the authority of scripture or prophetic writings.
We don't need to wander in darkness or come up with fanciful ideas about who should be allowed as members when we have been given direction from Scripture and Prophetic revelation. Sometimes you would honestly think by the direction things are heading in some places that people act as if there is no God at all and just think the church is a social club which we make up rules for based on whatever we think is right.
"Man," you said "#Jesus made us all and died for us all...PERIOD!"
This is a perfect example of using a partial truth to support a false premise.
-How is it that you accept only the things of your choosing from scripture?
-What gives you the authority to preside over scripture this way- suggesting which parts are important and which parts are unimportant?
-What makes you feel justified to accept the fact that Jesus died for all while setting aside His counsel to sinners "Go and sin no more."
You seem to be taking an openly gay stance on this website, and for the record I would like to say that I believe you are teaching dangerous half-truths that are not justified by the Word of God.