I am honored to say that my pastor was one of those who turned in his Ordination credentials for Commissioned...In addition two Unions have suspended ordination altogether.
I hope you understand what you are saying here Pastor. If there is a law which says that women cannot be ordained or be head over the family or head over the church family, would the spirit of the law say that she can be ordained or be head in spiritual matters?
you gave 1, 2, 3 or first, second, third but no bible backing. Does your personal observation overrides the bible?
Good question Jason....
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
(Your personal observations are immaterial when God has been explicit on a matter!)
Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD......
This is what scriptures say regarding women;
1 Tim 2:12 - 13
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1 Cor. 14:33-38
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
When such explicit instruction is given in the inspired, how did you get to the stage of debating the ordination of women as pastors and elders?????
Like Huldah or Deborah, right?
You say:Here is my personal observation:
I say: Wow
What of Ephesians 5:25? What your saying kind of makes the love story of Christ and His church null and void does it not?
incredible statement. I hope you can explain.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
This is what the bible teaches - not a marriage of business partners...
CORRECTION: Two Divisions have suspended ordination, by majority votes.
No on is trying to change your view. :) Just presenting the facts--and once again, the Men are leading this--you know, those who you may believe only should be leaders. God is Good.