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I am confused are medical workers really exempted to work during sabbath day in spite that they are paid.And are medical students justify to have their duties during sabbath day? pls. feel free to join this discussion, any idea will be very important. God bless.

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Hi Viola,

In answer to your question may I give you the SDA General Conference Guideline's on this subject? If when you finish reading this post you still have questions please feel free to ask.

Your brother in Christ,
Doc
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Seventh-day Adventist Guidelines for Healthcare Providers

8) Seventh-day Adventist Health-care Institutions. Adventist health care institutions provide the only contact many people have with the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Adventist hospitals are to be more than merely health-care delivery systems. They have a unique opportunity to bear a Christian witness 24 hours a day to the communities they serve. In addition, they have the privilege of presenting the Sabbath message by example every week. In healing the sick and loosing the bonds of the physically infirm, even on the Sabbath, Christ set an example that we look to as the basis for establishing and operating Adventist health-care institutions. Therefore, an institution offering medical care to the public must be prepared to minister to the needs of the sick and suffering without regard to hours or days.

This places a great responsibility on each institution to develop and implement policies that reflect the example of Christ and apply the principles of Sabbath observance as found in the Scriptures and taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Administrators have a special responsibility to see that all departments maintain the true spirit of Sabbath keeping by instituting appropriate Sabbath procedures and by guarding against laxity in its observance.

The following applications of Sabbath observance principles are recommended:

a. Provide emergency medical care willingly and cheerfully whenever needed with high levels of excellence. However, neither Adventist institutions nor physicians and dentists should provide the same office or clinic services on the Sabbath as they do on weekdays.

b. Discontinue all routine activities that could be postponed. Usually this means a complete closing of those facilities and departments not immediately related to patient care, and the maintenance of a minimum number of qualified people in other departments to handle emergencies.

c. Postpone elective diagnostic and therapeutic services. Decisions as to what is necessary or of an emergency nature should be made by the attending physician. If this privilege is abused, it should be dealt with by the hospital administration. Nonadministrative institutional employees should not become involved in making these decisions nor should they be obliged to confront the attending physicians. Misunderstandings may be avoided by making it clear in medical staff bylaws that only surgical, diagnostic, or therapeutic procedures which are not postponable because of the condition of the patient, will be done. A clear understanding with all who are appointed to staff membership, at the time of appointment, will do much to avoid misunderstandings and abuses.

Convenience and elective surgery should be discouraged or limited on Fridays. Procedures thus scheduled allow the patient to be in the hospital over the weekend and hence lose fewer days at work. However, this places the first post-operative day, usually with the most intensive nursing care, on the Sabbath.

d. Close administrative and business offices to routine business. Although it may be necessary to admit or discharge patients on the Sabbath, it is recommended that the rendering of bills and the collection of money be avoided. Never should the keeping of the Sabbath be a source of irritation to those we seek to serve and to save, but rather a hallmark of "the children of light" (Eph 5:8; Acts of the Apostles, p 260).

e. Make the Sabbath a special day for patients, providing a memory of Christian witnessing never to be forgotten. Meaningful Sabbath-keeping is much easier to achieve in an institution that employs a predominantly Adventist staff. Presenting the Sabbath in a proper light can be accomplished by the believing workers employed in patient care, and may well be a convicting influence in the lives of those not of our faith.

f. The direct care of the sick is a seven-day-a-week activity. Illness knows no calendar. Nevertheless, when scheduling all personnel, health-care institutions should take into consideration the sincere religious beliefs, observances, and practices of each employee and prospective employee. The institution should make reasonable accommodation for such religious beliefs unless it is demonstrated that such accommodation would place an undue hardship on its operation. It is recognized that the consciences of individuals vary in regard to the propriety of Sabbath employment. Neither the Church nor its institutions can act as the conscience for its employees. Rather, reasonable accommodation should be made for individual conscience.

g. Resist pressures for relaxing Seventh-day Adventist standards. Some institutions have been pressured by the communities, the medical staffs, and/or employees (where a majority is comprised of non-Adventists), to abandon or weaken Sabbath keeping principles and practices so that the Sabbath would be treated as any other day. In some cases, pressure has been applied to maintain full services on the Sabbath and reduce them on Sunday instead. Such action should be vigorously resisted. Compliance would cause serious reexamination of the relationship of such an institution to the Church.

h. Educate employees who are not Seventh-day Adventist concerning Sabbath keeping principles practiced by the institution. Every non-Adventist, at the time of employment at an Adventist health care institution, should be made aware of Seventh-day Adventist principles, especially institutional policies regarding the observance of the Sabbath. Though non-Adventists may not believe as we do, they should know from the very beginning how they are expected to fit into the institutional program to help it reach its objectives.

i. Foster an attitude for continuing Christian witnessing by Adventist employees. The only contact that many non-Adventist workers ever may have with Seventh-day Adventists may be in the institution employing them. Every relationship should be friendly, kind, and expressive of the love that exemplified the life and work of the Great Physician. Compassion for the sick, unselfish regard for our fellowman, an eagerness to serve, and unstinted loyalty to God and the Church may well prove to be a savor of life unto life. The keeping of the Sabbath is a privilege and an honor as well as a duty. It should never become burdensome or obnoxious to those who keep it or to those about us.

9) Sabbath Work in Non-Adventist Hospitals. While it is essential in medical institutions that a minimum of labor be performed at all times in order to maintain the welfare and comfort of the patients, Seventh-day Adventists employed in non-denominational institutions where Sabbath hours bring no relief from routine duties are under obligation to remember the principles that regulate all Sabbath activities. In order to avoid situations where our church members may be faced with problems of Sabbath keeping in non-Adventist institutions, it is recommended that:

a. When Seventh-day Adventists accept employment in non-Seventh-day Adventist hospitals, they make known their Sabbath keeping principles and request a work schedule that will exempt them from Sabbath duties.

b. Where work schedules or other factors make this impossible, Adventists should clearly identify the duties, if any, they can conscientiously perform on the Sabbath and the frequency thereof.

c. Where the above accommodations cannot be arranged, members should make loyalty to God's requirements paramount and abstain from routine work.
Do you have a link for this?
Thanks for the clippings doc. I may discuss this in our church. Is this from SDA Workers manual?
Thanks Country doc, I appreciate your clippings. There was a church discipline happened to one of our church member a year ago. She was a teacher and attended a graduation on Sabbath. But Medical workers even in non Adventist hospitals are exempted.So our medical students ask their schedule during Saturdays and they work during weekdays. Because it is exempted in the eyes of the church. I cannot accept that circumstances. I'm praying I may receive the light soon.kindly reply . Thanks
Hi Viola,

It is one thing to actually be involved in providing health care to those in need but it is quite another to participate in a graduation ceramony no matter what the degree may be. Any graduation ceramony is simply a public way to "show off" personal achievment. A graduation ceramony is not required to recieve your degree or deploma. Another way of puting it is to say that all a graduation ceramony actualy does is to inflate ones ego. Which in effect is to make our ego a god to be served not a God that should be worshiped. For me personaly I would feel that I was breaking the First and Fourth Commandments of the Ten Comandments to attend or participate in a graduation ceramony on the Sabbath.

You used the term "medical students." I don't know if you were refering only to those who are graduating or if you also ment those who are attending class'. If indeed you ment to attend class it would be my personal opinion that attending a class on the Sabbath is not to be done. There are almost always alternative ways to get the required credit. On the other hand if when you said "their schedual" that ment actualy working as a health care provider as may be required for internship that would be quite different.

If you have futher questions please feel free to ask.

Your friend and brother in Christ,
Doc
Thanks for the reply, It gives me a clearer view. I'm not a medical practitioner. Of course I can only see some of my friends they use their right as medical students to work or even to pursue their credit during sabbath day.They are scheduling their duties every weekend so that they can work during weekdays Many of them are working students at the same time pursuing to be a nurse.Anyway maybe its a self gratification to judge them. I only pray that I should focus on my opportunity as christian. Thanx doc.
When we start judging as a church ... how our individual members keep Sabbath ... we are in big trouble. I would not attend a graduation on Sabbath. But I would not judge someone who does. Jesus clearly avoided setting a list of rules for Sabbath observance as the Jews had. We should avoid it also.
This is indeed a great post Country Doc. This would be of great help to those who are in the medical field and especially the our nurses....",
What if it's a case whereby an Adventist doctor works in a non-adventist hospital or health care institution and is supposed to work on sabbath and get paid. What can He/She do?

I've a friend who is an Adventist and works on Sabbath, he is a medical doctor and all the proceeds from his sabbath pay cheque, he deposits the money into a separate account and uses the money for helping people, I think It's a good ministry.
Hi Joseph,

In answer to your question; "I've a friend who is an Adventist and works on Sabbath, he is a medical doctor and all the proceeds from his sabbath pay cheque, he deposits the money into a separate account and uses the money for helping people, I think It's a good ministry."

Yes, many do give the monies earned as an offering do a specific purpose or give it in other ways.

Your brother in Christ,
Doc
Hi joseph,

I agree with your friend.. I'm a medical student.. and sooner my life would be purely in the hospital.. dats y i opted for this course because of Sabbath exemption. and I think this is my calling. My family has been talking about this, and we want it dat if I work on a sabbath, I can get my payment and give to people who need it or i can just have my service for dat sabbath for free..

ivy marie
IVY MARIE . I MAY TEASE U ABOUT YOUR NAME HAHA JUS T A WEE BIT BUT NOT YOUR CHARACTER.. COUNTRY DOC IS RIGHT ON TARGET .. . I mean simply ALL labor ;; FOR PROFIT; must cease!! it simply means that we dont depend on working on the SABBATH hours for our own benefit .. ...
WE are to depend on GOD for our livlihood and as the country doc has stated the earning swe recieve on thi sday be donated to those in need .. YES.. this is very hard except we lean fully on God and not ourselves
The sacred hours of the SABBATH is not for a means for our own support as a necesity .. in Medical Mnistry n i not sure at this momen tthe exact page oh I FOUND IT PAGE 216.PARAGRAPH 2 Sabbath Work ;; the physcian need tpo practise self denial and self- sacrifice, It may be necasaryfor a physician to work to devote even the hours of the holy Sabbath to the reief of the suffering, but the feefor such laborshould be putinto the treasury of the Lord,tobe used for the worthy poorwho need medical attention but can not afford to pay for it ... THE GENERAL Council are but men and they will fail search for ourself in the books God has given to his church for inspiration n guidance HIS Messenger Ellen G white,, ..
YES IVY I admire the spirit that is working in you Continue in it and your faith will be rewarded.. uncle .. mj

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