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Good day brethren, and sistren, 

Given that there were other women in Mrs. White day who were receiving visions/dreams from God, shouldn't they be considered as being "inspired" as was the case with Mrs. White? Second, given that Mrs. White's work were drawn from other sources, do you think it feasible to trace these sources and cite from them? 

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Garth  It is clear to me that you do not have a clue about how to test a prophet.  You need to read your Bible again to understand the test of a Prophet. When you can not see the difference between E G White and Mary Baker Eddy, it is clear you have no idea about the criteria for a Prophet. Mr Foy is a different story if you have read my posts about him. 

I see you have made a try at keeping Sabbath, Let me ask why would you keep the Sabbath? 

Good evening Elijah,

I trust all is well, and thank you for your comment. According to the Biblical authors, and those who were prophets and documented their experience, simply put a prophet is one who is God's oracle - he or she speaks repentance and Judgment; and if they are God's mouth piece, and if they speak of God's wrath or what would be fall the individual, group, or nation and it does not draw water, there is no need to drink from that prophet. God has not appointed neither call him or her. On the other hand, I honour God's Sabbath as He is my creator and He ask me to remember it. It is a day God has stepped into and made it holy; for  He being holy, and stepping into any space, that space would possess God's aura. In addition, to that he bless it, so I am for whatever is God's.

Garth yes I am pleased you understand why you are keeping the Sabbath. As it is indeed the Memorial of His creation. As well as it is a memorial of His redemption. 

Clearly you have not made an effort to find out what qualifies a Prophet to be Gods Prophet and not a false one. 

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Hello Garth

Ellen White and her editors wrote as if most of her writings were transcribed by God. When she did quote and borrow from others, they were not sourced because it would conflict with the isle ad that Her work was from the hand of God, Rather the her own.

Ellen White admitted that not everything she wrote came from God, she said she used human sources at times - I don't think she meant to imply that her works are all from God; but some Adventists treat them as if they were.

"Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light." Colporteur Ministry, 125 (RH 1-20-03).

"Many times in my experience I have been called upon to meet the attitude of a certain class, who acknowledged that the testimo- nies were from God, but took the position that this matter and that matter were Sister White's opinion and judgment. This suits those who do not love reproof and correction, and who, if their ideas are crossed, have occasion to explain the difference between the human and the divine.

"If the preconceived opinions or particular ideas of some are crossed in being reproved by testimonies, they have a burden at once to make plain their position to discriminate between the testimonies, defining what is Sister White's human judgment, and what is the word of the Lord. Everything that sustains their cherished ideas is divine, and the testimonies to correct their errors are human--Sister White's opinions. They make of none effect the counsel of God by their tradition." Selected Messag- es, 3:68 (MS 16, 1889).

"The Holy Ghost is the Author of the Scriptures and of the Spirit of Prophecy. ...
(Letter 92, 1900 [Manuscript Release #136])

"I have faith in God. . . . He works at my right hand and at my left. While I am writing out important matters, He is beside me, helping me. He lays out my work before me, and when I am puzzled for a fit word with which to express my thoughts, He brings it clearly and distinctly to my mind." (Letter 127, 1902 [Manuscript Release #119]).

God sets no man to pronounce judgment on His Word, selecting some things as in- spired and discrediting others as uninspired. The testimonies have been treated in the same way; but God is not in this" (Selected Messages, 1:23).

My work . . . bears the stamp of God or the stamp of the enemy. There is no halfway work in the matter. The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil." Testimonies for the Church, 4:230.

"Weak and trembling, I arose at three o'clock in the morning to write to you. God was speaking through clay. You might say that this communication was only a letter. Yes, it was a letter, but prompted by the Spirit of God, to bring before your minds things that had been shown me. In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me." Testimonies for the Church, 5:67.

Shannon I am still looking for this statement
Or are you referring to the time when someone told her that there were 40 rooms when in fact there were 38 rooms?

Yes, she acknowledged using experts instead of God for the number of rooms..  Looking at the quotes your provided though, some of them appear to be misleading.  We know that Ellen White used human sources fairly often.

Smh God will not reveal this to her, she could simply ask. Don't mix the common with the sacred.

There are many examples of Ellen White using human sources, the number of rooms is only one instance.  It's ok, she is still a prophet, but we should acknowledge that not everything she wrote came from God.

Hello Shannon

As you may have discovered there are Adventist who are convinced that Ellen White is and was infallible. This means they cannot admit that she was ever wrong regardless of the evidence.

Leon it has been shown you time and time again the charges you have raised against E G White are not true. Either you do not read or you just persist with your false charges. 


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