Good day brothers and sisters, do have a wonderful Sabbath experience.
Today my question to you comes from my study of the underpinning principles that guide Muslims. The question is do you think that Muslims who serve God would live with Him eternally? If Yes or No, why?
NOT IF THEY DENY JOHN 3:16.
Good morning brothers and sisters, and all praise to Jehovah.
Wendy very much so. However, Rick well according to the verse, it can be argued that they believe in Jesus, for the verse says if anyone who believes in Him, would have eternal life, and although varying sects would have their varying views on the man Jesus, they regard Him highly. On the contrary, do you think that there is a strong argument for why Jesus is seen as a prophet or why the Jews do not regard Him as the Messiah to come? For in assessing the synoptic gospels that try to show that Jesus was the Messiah to come didn't do a good job to prove that. Could it be that Jesus first coming in the sense of an anointed one or messiah was to be a sacrificial lamb to return mankind to God, whilst when He comes He would come to the fulfill the role of the Messiah as how it is prophesied to the Hebrews or people of the book?
Hello, Garth seems like you have taken no notice of what anyone has said about Christianity and Christ:
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
what does it say Believe meaning really Be-living? what does Muslim do that? I note you scoff at the Jews who did not understand Jesus was the Messiah. There were various reasons for that But as we Know Jesus said to them:
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Meaning God has cancelled his contract with the Jews as his special people.
GARTH, IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE QUESTION. BUT REGARDLESS OF RACE OR RELIGION, IF CHRIST IS NOT ACCEPTED AS SAVIOR, YOUR TOAST. AGAIN, JOHN 3:16
Islam has a very prominent role in the Bible. The children of the East and the Kings of the Earth, refer to the people which today for the most part, are Muslim. These are the Locust and the Grasshoppers, they have a Zeal for whom they call GOD but they do not know Him. We read of their task in Joel 1, and that is to Punish the Olive Tree of CHRIST and to make the Leafs Bare because the Tree does not yield Fruit. John 15 explains further the consequence of the Tree not yielding Fruit and explains what JESUS will do with it. JESUS will Prune it and He will use Grasshoppers, as He has done before towards Egypt and the Ten Plagues, to do the job. This is His Great Army, the Northern Army, which belongs on Paper to the King of the North; the Papacy, yet in Reality, JESUS is their King. They, however, do not know that and they will attribute their Military Prowess to their god. Hab 1 and 2 speak more of this.
When the Campaign against the West has come to completion and the Remnant Church have been pruned, JESUS replants the Church and puts it in the East, in a Barren Place, in a Wilderness. This is the Time when the Latter Rain is poured out and the Children of the East are FINALLY given what they have been waiting for, the Physical Evidence of the People of GOD, the People of the Book to manifest themselves and the Three Angels Messages will go out to everyone in the East. Kings and Queens, Princes and Princesses will Hear the Word of GOD and MANY will put ALL THEIR WEALTH behind the Cause and will offer up their property as Residence for the 144000. Isa 60 speak more of this most amazing Event. Many will then join the cause and proclaim without FEAR of Death the Truth and will abandon Islam and proclaim the GOD they have been Searching for and Waiting for. Sister White speak of this event in the Book Great Controversy, although she does not mention by name that these are Moslem. Who else, before the Close of Probation and the Death Decree has a Fear of Death involved? There is no group on this earth that I know of which will kill someone if they depart from their faith but Islam.
Those who receive the Light will give the Loud Cry Message and Tidings from the EAST and from the NORTH will terrify the Papacy and they will do all in their power to instigate Sunday Laws, an attempt then to Limit the Multitudes of Converts. The Truth is, unless Satan introduce Sunday law, the entire Earth will follow after the LAMB, because the Manifestation of Divine Love and Power is to much for Humanity to Handle, they will be compelled to follow the Truth, but because of the Pain of Death they will hesitate, and because they loved their own souls more than CHRIST they will fall away and join the enemy.
In the book of Revelation we read of the Kings of the Earth who have JESUS as their KING and LORD, and we read of Kings of the Earth who does not, but who are gathered at the final war. So this is what will happen: Those of Islam that Join CHRIST will forever Have Him as their King and All that they have are put into the Promotion of the Kingdom. Satan will at this time muster his forces and will go out to the rest of the Kings of the Earth in a Race against the Time to set in their heart to resist the Power of GOD and the 144000. We read in Revelation 11 that the Two Witnesses will call down Fire and can cast any kind of Plague upon the land, Joel 2 speak of the same, as does Isa 60 (Please read these chapters carefully). Those that resist will be cursed and will be destroyed - some there and then but most in the 7 last Plagues.
In practicality: Those that laughed at the Calamity of the Remnant of GOD will be Punished by CHRIST, and the 144000 are to Warn those of this Judgment. If their warning is heeded, then the souls are saved, if it is rejected, then the souls will perish.
Islam will destroy ALL the Material Asset of the Seventh day Adventist Church, and the King of the SDA church will perish in the morning.
Hos 10:14 "Therefore shall a tumult arise among thy people, and all thy fortresses shall be spoiled, as Shalman spoiled Betharbel in the day of battle: the mother was dashed in pieces upon herchildren."
Hos 10:15 "So shall Bethel do unto you because of your great wickedness: in a morning shall the king of Israel utterly be cut off."
Thus the Call for the Seventh day Adventist church is this: Joel 2:13 "And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil."
For the Great and Terrible day of the LORD is at Hand, and WHO shall be able to stand?! <3
Good morning fellow Responded,
I thank you for your responses. Elijah in regard to your argument,yes Muslims believe in Jesus and are looking forward to His return. Yes they like people of the Book as they refer to them or Jews do not believe that He is the messiah, and the argument is valid, because Jesus had not fulfilled what God has spoken to and through the prophets as yet. I believe that came as the anointed one or the messiah to fulfill the role as the sacrificial lamb, the breach to bring back men and women to God, and when He returns he would fulfill the real role of Messiah and bring universal peace. On the other hand, Rodney I do not know from whom or what literature you all folks are getting this argument from. For in assessing revelations 9 and surrounding verses, you would note that it is treating with God's judgment that he would execute on those unrepentant. You would also note that in He was still reaching out to the unrepentant and yet they refuse God's mercy. So my question to you is how is it that we have not seen a third of the earth dead, a third of the sea and its inhabitants destroy and the earth experience partial day and night? For the following chapter has to coincide with the latter, and so if you are not taking that into consideration, then could it be that you are interpreting a segment of the prophecy incorrectly? Could it be you are adding to what really isn't there and one just have to wait and see what would take place. For it seems that all of us have to go through this tribulation, but those who accept God, or His Son would and truly repent would be well, would be safe. God make us all heaven ready. Also note that God says at the last day only two categories are coming before Him - those who live right to everlasting life and those who are unrepentant, to utter destruction. Let's choose God and live
Thanks for your reply Garth you said:
"Elijah in regard to your argument,yes Muslims believe in Jesus and are looking forward to His return. Yes they like people of the Book as they refer to them or Jews do not believe that He is the messiah"
I do not know where you get this from, as far as I know, the Muslims detest Christians and the Quran tells them to kill Christians and the Muslims seem to take up this command with great gusto. As we have just seen with the ISIS hordes who killed Christians.
For a start, killing is not Christian as Christ commanded us to love one and another I do not see a lot of love in killing. So I do not see how they believe in Christ and at the same time kill Christians and look forward to Christ's return. Really Garth are you sure you have it all together?
AGREE WITH ELIJAH, MUSLIM IS ANTI CHRISTIANITY IN THEORY AND PRACTICE, THE EXTREMISTS AMONG THEM ACT IT OUT