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We had this discussion on who a sinner is. It was said that a sinner is one who practices sin. When we accept Christ we are no longer sinners but children of God. Any thoughts? Is the term sinner a state of being or a behaviour?

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Throughout the Bible the term for sinner is "chata", the Hebrew word meaning "missing". It is a verb, but is translated in some placed by the KJV as the word "sinner" rather than "sinning" or "sinning-one".

The exact same word is carried into the NT, which is a translation into Greek, from this Hebrew word. The Greek word for sinner is "hamartolos".

 Pr 11:31 ¶ Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner.
 Ec 8:12 Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his [days] be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him:
 Lu 7:37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that [Jesus] sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
 Lu 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
 1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

1Peter 4:18 is an exact rendering of Pr 11:31.  The Hebrew word "tsaddiyq" means "straight". Only the "Straight-Ones" are see as "righteous" and thus saved, while one "missing" is by definition "crooked".

Your questions are too broad to answer easily.

First I suggest you read what is sin:

Than have a looked at the saved cigarette smoker, a play on shadows and relationship of GOD to shadows:

Next have a look at the sinner who is close to GOD, and does sin-offerings NOT unto death.

What does this mean in Scripture?

Finally consider what surrender means to a supporter of God:

I hope these studies help answer your questions.

Finally you ask, is a sinner a state of being, or behaviour?

"chata" means "missing". I am daily learning to surrender to Jesus in the presence of others.

Consider this statement by John

1Jo 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

The term used here is the same term for "sinner", or "chata". If we are in Jesus we do not sin, therefore we are not a "sinner".

When we come closer to Jesus we become a chief of sinners, because our "sin-offerings" appear larger, not because we become more sinning, but more aware of our missing Jesus. Many of these sins are "sin-offerings" not unto death. All transgressions must stop. Our love of Jesus goes beyond the moral code, into the fruits of the Holy Spirit.

We hope this helps. God bless you and keep you. Shalom


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