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I posted this picture on my facebook page and got some interesting comments.  What's yours?

The name of the book Obama is holding is called:

The Post-American World, and it was written by a fellow
Muslim.(Fareed Zakaria)

"Post" America means: The World "After" America!"



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Amen!  Truth really is just that simple!

I looked up the book.. It's not on the downfall of America, but rather globalization..

What do you mean by a fellow Muslim Anthony?

He is referring to what many including my self saw on the news in one of his first news interviews when he decided to run for the presidency.. He said that he was muslin and wanted too be sworn in on his holy book instead of the Bible.. And before you say it this was not some video on the net, I watched it on live broadcast on cable..

At the time I thought it was pretty cool that he had the guts to be honest about who is is and what he believes, and had planned on voting for him (so please note I am not hating on him, just being honest), but when he decided it best to lie about his religious stance shortly after I lost a lot of respect for him..

Um, that is not right at all. Obama never said he was Muslim, that is simply a straight out lie. Barack Obama was sworn in on the bible that Abraham Lincoln used in 1861. Perhaps you are mistaking Obama for Minnesota Representative Keith Ellison who IS a Muslim and used a Koran when he was sworn in. I hope that is what it is and that you are not smearing someones name, because that is not christian at all. 


"Um, that is not right at all. Obama never said he was Muslim, that is simply a straight out lie. Barack Obama was sworn in on the bible that Abraham Lincoln used in 1861."

I know he was sworn in with the Bible.. He changed his story shortly after the interview when the opinion polls on that statement threatened him.. I assure you I am not mistaken on who it was, nor am I a liar.. I am also not smearing the man, just stating the facts as they came from his own lips.. I have a photographic memory, and my long term is the strongest, so this is one thing I know I am right about.. Though honestly there is no such thing as an honest politician, so why should any of us be surprised... The only honest ones we had were assassinated, because of it..

You are right about politicians not being honest :-). But I have a hard time believing that he said that he was a Muslim, that is not something that can be hidden and I have never seen this video. People would be posting this left and right all over the internet and I have yet to see it, do you have alike to this video anywhere? By the way, I was not calling you a lier, and I did not vote for him, so I don't have a biased reason for defending him. I would like to see the video myself though. 

"that is not something that can be hidden and I have never seen this video."

Ye it can.. If given proper authority the powers that be can make anything disappear.. For example.. I also saw with my own eyes a one time airing of some hidden camera comments that made the 12 o'cloc news here in AZ.. What happened was our senator at the time decided he was tired of Bush and so he placed a hidden camera in is book shelf shortly before the president arrived at his office.. Bush at the time was deceived in to talking about his current cocaine usage.. I aired at 12PM while I was watching TV cleaning up at work.. Only a hand full of people saw it that I knew personally besides me and it took less than 24 hours for them to make it disappear.. Basically if you have enough friends in the right places anything is possible.. Half the time a politician gets busted it's only because he has more enemies than friends..

Sadly no I don't have a video.. My mom was such a big fan of his I was sure she would have taped it, but she didn't.. She made everyone in the house sit perfectly quiet and watch it.. lol

The No Religious Test Clause of the United States Constitution is found in Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
There was a time in your history as a nation when religious tests were enforced to prevent non Protestants from holding political office in the US.  Your constitution ruled against this practice. Your elected officials can either be religious or non religious Catholic or Protestant Jewish Muslim or Christian.
Lets accept that the President's father and step father were devout Muslims what do you think they would want for their son?  Would you not teach your faith to your offspring?  To say that the President is a Muslim because he had a Muslim father and stepfather and went to a Muslim school as a young boy is a fallacious argument.  All we can really says is that your President was exposed to Islamic influences in his boyhood.  That should be a plus for him and your nation since  since your foreign policy in the Middle East and your  inhumane military actions in Iraq and Afghanistanhave angered many MUslims all over the globe.
If the President says he is now a Christian you need to deal with what the man is saying at this point in his life.  Each of us evolves in our own life journey. Nor should we require anyone to denounce the spiritual influences that have helped shape them into what they have become. Remember that the age of religious tests has ended.
As for your video you need to bring evidence to the table that all can examine critique and judge . 


1.) If you read my previous post you would know that his religion rely never mattered to me until he deiced too change his story to suit and opinion pole, basically selling out his beliefs.. So of %90 of you post is kind of irrelevant..

2.) "If the President says he is now a Christian you need to deal with what the man is saying at this point in his life. "

He Went from saying I am Muslim, to I have been Christian since I was a child and it was never any different.. That is not a conversion, but a lie.. You can't be both at the same time..

3.) Let me reiterate I don't care what religion he is, I just think he should be honest about it.. I am not trying to hurt, or slander than man.. In fact the only reason I even mentioned it was to answer the question as to why someone else refereed too him as a Muslim.

4.) As I said on my previous post.. I have no video, because I obviously didn't think he would go back on what he said.. I was planning on voting for him at that time and figured that would be the last thing he would lie about.. I also didn't plan in having too have evidence for conversations like this one in the future.. It was a live news feed, not some prerecorded thing that is easily obtained.. and shortly after it became impossible to find on the net as well.. He wanted it too disappear,because it threatened his position with many voters and it did disappear..

5.) You can also look at small evidences like the fact that he canceled National prayer day at the White House, but openly celebrated a Muslim day of prayer.. As pictured here..


And here...


And celebrated the end of Ramadan...
 Here is a quote from him, you should be able too find this one easily...

"I wish Muslims around the world a blessed month, and I look forward to again hosting an iftar dinner here at the White House. Ramadan Kareem."

Why would a Christian host a dinner that specifically celebrates the end of a fast too a pagan deity, in his home? Wouldn't that be against his religion?

Also, here is a bit from the NY Times about how he many Christians were upset, because he found a way too get out of National Prayer day..

Political commentary from Andrew Malcolm

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Obama ends Bush-era National Prayer Day service at White House

President Bush at National Prayer Day service For years, it's been a staple of the White House calendar.

On the first Thursday of May, dedicated as the National Day of Prayer, President George W. Bush hosted an ecumenical service in the East Room, a big public endorsement of evangelical Christians. (This event is different from the National Prayer Breakfast, held outside the White House gates every year on the first Thursday of February.)

President Obama opted not to have a service in the White House this year.

"Prayer is something that the president does every day," explained White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, adding that Obama will sign a proclamation to recognize the day. "I think the president understands, in his own life and in his family's life, the role that prayer plays."

President Truman signed the first National Prayer Day proclamation, and President Reagan made it a permanent occasion. Under Bush, the day was a political event, confirming a conviction that religion was a core tenet of Republican politics.

Naturally, prominent evangelicals, including National Day of Prayer Task Force Chairman Shirley Dobson, and her husband, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, expressed disappointment in Obama's decision.

"At this time in our country's history, we would hope our president would recognize more fully the importance of prayer," Shirley Dobson said in a statement.


So he withdraws him self from the national day of prayer honored by Christians, holds a day of prayer at the capitol for Muslims shortly after, and celibates Ramadan.. You don't see all of this as just a little convenient?

As the head of state he has to be able to relate to people living in the middle east, since that is a major topic right now. As to canceling national prayer day, there is no requirements in the constitution that he hold this day. I will try when I get home to find any proof of him claiming to be Muslim. Happy Sabbath.

As a matter of the separation of church and state, we should not have a national day of prayer set aside by the government.  A president should be able to celebrate any ceremony he wants to take part in but he should not use his power to set that ceremony or day as special to the whole country.  A national day of prayer should have been declared unconstitutional long ago.  A president can ask people to pray but not formally declare it as president.  There is a difference in use of his power and his individual request. 


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