Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
I am hearing that this text refers to a partial resurrection when Jesus comes. It is alledged that when Jesus comes the wicked who pierced him will rise just to see him coming and then they will die again.
I have looked for information to back up this but to no avail so if anyone know about this and have concrete evidence from both Bible and SOP then feel free to pass it on.
A person can do wickedness and turn to God, such as Paul the Apostle for example.
There is a point of no return though when a person totally dedicates themselves to Lucifer and then there is an inalterable spiritual change, when the person becomes a child of the Devil, which is not just rejecting salvation and the holy spirit which normally could be accepted later, but selling out all the way to Lucifer is totally blaspheming the holy spirit (there are degrees of blasphemy) is not just rejecting at that time the holy spirit, but accepting the Devil as Father and God. This is the unforgivable sin.
The Satanist, Luciferian purposefully does evil and rituals and human sacrifices to gain power and to get as many demons and fallen angels in their body and mind as possible. The Christian does his best hopefully to keep or get rid of as many demons as possible.
Correction: "...to keep out or get rid of as many demons as possible."
Gene I agree thus far
Those who pierced him will indeed see him sitting on the throne of glory whether it is at the first resurrection or the second great white throne resurrection.
Please elaborate what you meant here
Reasoning and Elijah;
Why is there no prophesy, speaking in tongues with interpretation or for that matter any of the nine manifestaions of holy spirit in the assemblies, the lives and the walk of the believers?
Talk of prophesy over 100 yrs. ago, but no prophesy now? Why?
If God is not communicaing by the spirit, what does that mean?
Is it man’s fault or God doesn’t work at SDA and why?
These are hard questions, most pople will not consider them and just attack the messenger and avoid the lack of faith. God has been waiting for 2000 years for people to believe God like in the Book of Acts.
"Why is there no prophesy, speaking in tongues..."
Prophecy we have EGW as SDA. Israel went for 400 years without a Prophet. What do you happy clappers have yes speaking in tongues indeed and the false outpouring of the "spirit" If this was from God the $3 bill would be good currency. You seem to think we can force God to pour out the Spirit. And the result is Satan pours out his spirit on you. And you are no messenger from God rather Satan has sent you here. Let me remind you that the subject you are raising is totally different to what this thread is dealing with why do you not make a new thread for this subject? Or reopen one there is plenty of threads that deal with the validity of EGW as a prophet. We know you have no respect for any rules around here as you demonstrate just about every time you post here.
No the question is not about me and what I do, but about why there is no prophesy in the SDA to which the Bible states we are to covet to prophesy, as well as all 9 manifestations are to profit withal and walking by the spirit is required not optional, which include the 9 manifestations of holy spirit which includes hearing the still small voice of God.
You only attack me instead of considering the implications of the general lack of power of the holy spirit in general Christianity and SDA in particular. You give no answers or consider the implications of not walking by the spirit and quenching the spirit of God, which is normal in Christianity and not the exception. Therefore you deceive yourself and you attack me without justification or evidence, as you are completely ignorant of this field which I have studied and obtained Biblically sound and profitable results for over 43 years.
You have no experience or understanding in this field and make false blanket statements about it and about me without evidence and continue to blampheme the holy spirit. God does not like such behavior and your total lack of love and hateful attitude is a total bad witness for Christ, including your claiming the miracles I have seen as being Satanic without justification. God saving people's lives, homes and property as well as the environment during the 2015 Valley Fire is in your view Satanic.
That is insanity. You will have to answer to God why you do these things even after being warned many times. God is not pleased with your ignorance, blasphemy and hatred which you ignore and never consider the vast amount of information and even examples of healing, miracles and signs and wonders I have stated on this site both from the Bible and as experienced in 43 years as well as my extensive research and others' research who are far more knowledgeable and qualified to speak on these matters compared to you, like about a million to one. All you can do is attack without answering the valid questions and scriptures including the Book of Acts and the words of Jesus himself and of Paul.
Israel went for 400 years without a prophet because of unbelief and darkness. That is nothing to be proud of. The lack of the holy spirit in manifestation in general Christianity and SDA in particular also are nothing to be proud of either. God still is waiting for people to believe HIM and walk by the spirit. Total lack of significant manifestations of the holy spirit indicates;
unbelief, ignorance, lack of desire to walk by the spirit, lack of knowledge, experience and accurate teaching in this field by the leadership and an almost total quenching of the spirit of God and rejection of what in the first century church was the norm; manifesting God's power, seldom seen today and totally discouraged by most of Christianity, which is basically apostasy, a turning away from God and the gift of God in attitude and this is the "norm," not the exception.
Scripture, history and my testimony and experience and the holy spirit itself bears witness to the truth of what I am stating. Jesus, Paul, Peter, and the church epistles all bear witness to the truth of what I am saying. You defy the scriptures and the holy spirit, and the words of the prophets including Joel whose prophesy was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost. No excuse to wait for the latter rain, it already started according to Peter. Are you greater than Peter, Elijah?
"All you can do is attack without answering the valid questions and scriptures"
Yes indeed now you are rubbishing SDA Because we do not approve of your view. What you are promoting here is your view on what the Bible is saying. Notwithstanding all the lies you are telling us, the bagging about miracles you have performed. Not to mention that you reject parts of the Bible as not applying to you. You see yourself as God's gift to a fallen church do you not? One wonders how someone with a record like that is chosen by God to give a message? A lawbreaker to God has in my view no valid questions. The whole attitude of yours here is unchristian and unbecoming from someone who dares to call himself a Christian.
So let me repeat what I said before. Let me remind you that the subject you are raising is totally different to what this thread is dealing with why do you not make a new thread for this subject? Or reopen one there is plenty of threads that deal with the validity of EGW as a prophet. We know you have no respect for any rules around here as you demonstrate just about every time you post here.
You still avoid all the valid questions that I raised as you continue to bad mouth me with evil words. I have Christ in me, the hope of glory no matter what you think, and if you do these evil things to me, it is as though you did it to Christ.
You cannot and will not face the music that the spirit of God is not much in operation other than in a very limited way in most of Christianity including the SDA church. Many are truly born again of God's spirit, but that is as far as it goes.
How can someone have any credibility that apparently has never manifested holy spirit, has not researched it deeply, and just mouths the inaccuracies he has been taught with no practical experience and who reviles others he has not met, has not witnessed manifestations and who has not received discerning of spirit(s) revelation tell anything of authority and knowledge and experience in this field?
The easiest thing to do is an attack without answering the questions. This is what people do when they have nothing of substance to offer.
I am not rubbishing the SDA, the truth might bother you that no one that I know of has had any prophesy or other manifestations of the holy spirit for well over 100 years, and EGW seems to be the only one that prophesied in the SDA that we hear about.
I have seen and heard others prophesy or speak in tongues and interpret in the many hundreds over the years, as well as done many of both myself, all of them comforting, edifying, and or exhorting to a more worthy endeavor, that followed the principles of the Bible including freedom of will.
You won't believe me, for you only think evil continuously.
In your mind Elijah it is ok for you to attack me and call me a false this and that working for Satan supposedly, and to dehumanize me. But when I defend and address your statements and refute them, you refuse to answer my questions because you can't answer them.
You are devoid of understanding in this field of the manifestations of holy spirit. A person addressing another person, especially a believer must be prudent and very careful about their judgments and accusations. I already brought your and others evil treatment to the court of God by Petition. It is still in God's court standing as witness against you and others.
James either you do not read my post or worse you are ignoring a request and that just demonstrates how arrogant you really are. So I repeat again.
Let me remind you that the subject you are raising is totally different to what this thread is dealing with why do you not make a new thread for this subject? Or reopen one there is plenty of threads that deal with the validity of EGW as a prophet. We know you have no respect for any rules around here as you demonstrate just about every time you post here.
I will not reply to any more of your posts here if they do not deal with the subject in hand.