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 Hallow brethren,

 A'v got a problem with the issues of football especially watching  and playing on hours that are not of sabbath is it good or bad watching football live or on a sports house?  

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We are United!

Hi Jill say something.

I think she did say something: she is a United fan.
I think he said not on the Sabbath

Yes you are right sorry for not seeing that

So is it right or wrong?

I am sorry they did not answer you.  Being fit, kicking a ball around with friends is not bad, but our passion should be for Christ because we live in the last days.  Pray about it. The New Testament uses a number of athletic metaphors, such as: 2 Timothy 4:7  I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith.  I get the impression that you want someone to tell you it is OK to like football.  That in itself is something to think about. 

"Bread and circuses" (or bread and games) (from Latinpanem et circenses) is a metaphor for a superficial means of appeasement. In the case of politics, the phrase is used to describe the creation of public approval, not through exemplary or excellent public service or public policy, but through diversion; distraction; or the mere satisfaction of the immediate, shallow requirements of a populace,[1] as an offered "palliative." Juvenal decried it as a simplistic motivation of common people.[2][3][4] The phrase also implies the erosion or ignorance of civic duty amongst the concerns of the common man.

In modern usage, the phrase is taken to describe a populace that no longer values civic virtues and the public life. To many, it connotes a supposed triviality and frivolity that characterized the Roman Republic prior to its decline into the autocratic monarchy characteristic of the later Roman Empire's transformation about 44 B.C.[citation needed]

Should we knowing the prophetic time in which we live, in gauge in Triviality and frivolity?  The pagans knew what they were doing by building arenas as attested to in the above statement pulled out of Wikipedia.  Good men waste time and breath talking sports when they could be talking about our Creator.  

Football and sports are not bad in themselves but they, but if anything that takes away our time with God and that is a bad thing. For some people sports are an idol.  The moment after Sunday church is over the talk is about sports, sometimes even during the sermon sports is mentioned. Then men who should be prayerfully leading family plop obese frames into easy chairs to watch Sunday sports while drinking beer and eating junk food instead of engaging with the family about God.  

I enjoy watching baseball but it has become less of a passion for me because there are more important things going on.  Just some thoughts.  Stay strong in the Lord and don't let anything take away from your relationship with him. 


 There is so little good involved in professional sports so as to be eclipsed by the elements of the world, like pride, competition, intemperance, exorbitant waste of money and resources. 

 There are 25 hits on the "football" in the CD on EGW's writings. The following is one of them and refutes some of the rationalizations for "football."

"The mind thus educated to enjoy physical taxation in practical life becomes enlarged, and through culture and training, well disciplined and richly furnished for usefulness, and acquires a knowledge essential to be a help and blessing to themselves and to others. Let every student consider, and be able to say, I study, I work, for eternity. They can learn to be patiently industrious and persevering in their combined efforts of physical and mental labor. What force of powers is put into your games of football and your other inventions after the way of the Gentiles--exercises which bless no one! Just put the same powers into exercise in doing useful labor, and would not your record be more pleasing to meet in the great day of God? {SpTEd 191.1}

Whatever is done under the sanctified stimulus of Christian obligation, because you are stewards in trust of talents to use to be a blessing to yourself and to others, gives you substantial satisfaction; for all is done to the glory of God. I cannot find an instance in the life of Christ where he devoted time to play and amusement. He was the great Educator for the present and the future life. I have not been able to find one instance where he educated his disciples to engage in amusement of football or pugilistic games, to obtain physical exercise, or in theatrical performances; and yet Christ was our pattern in all things. Christ, the world's Redeemer, gave to every man his work, and bids them "occupy till I come." And in doing his work, the heart warms to such an enterprise, and all the powers of the soul are enlisted in a work assigned of the Lord and Master. It is a high and important work. The Christian teacher and student are enabled to become stewards of the grace of Christ, and be always in earnest. {SpTEd 191.2}

"occupy till I come." Good stuff Kevin!  I am certain you will be skewered for being a dower sadventist sour puss.  The real truth is that we live in exciting times and I count a blessing that God has allowed us to live in such times as these. 

 Yes, Bart, all of the Testimony of Jesus is" good stuff" even when it cramps our style. Thanks. I don't mind being skewered because its not about me anyway.  Rome was not happy about having her games spoken against either. 


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