Clements dear, i understand this differently from the way you understand it. I have explained my understanding of this elsewhere on this post.
since this is my conviction, can we just conclude and say its ok for me to follow my conviction despite the different views? as in, sincee i am moved to do it, and I am happy and contented doing it, can I just go ahead and do it without dragging into an urgument.
Have a blessed Sabbath.
Well, pick up a history book and study the era. Also, Mrs. White mentions covering up while outside to protect from the elements, like the sun. Thus the term "sun-bonnet."
You can follow your conviction, but joining the chorus of abusing the SOP for pet projects isn't an acceptable position.
And is this era more modest or less modest than that era ? You will see in some of her pictures a head covering that was not a "sun bonnet." While I am still studying this I think the Amish may have something. The idea Scripture is saying that hair is the woman's head covering has some inconsistencies.
its not about era, its about conviction, its not about history, its about reading the Word.
I bet there are also some things that you are convicted to do that I cannot understand because I have not had a similar conviction. We all are on a spiritual Journey here and the best we can do is encourage each other and cheer each other on our homeward journey.
Can you imagine how wierd it was for Abraham to claim he has a conviction that he should leave Ur to some place he did not know, that he had word from God to circumcise all males in his household, and wierd of all that he should sacrifice his son. They all appear non-sensical and fanatical. but because he was faithful, God testifies thaat He knows him and call him His friend. He also is in the Wall of Faith.
Head covering may also appear non-sensical and fanatical, but because I have a very deep conviction about this, and I actually have my concience troubled if i do not cover, I will be faithful and cover.
You have abused and misquoted Ellen White, because you have a pet project. That I take extreme umbrage to. However, if you want to make a specticle of yourself, because you desire attention, that is your issue. But, to impose it on the body, which would violate the very principal of modest dress, which is not to bring attention to oneself, then that is not proper.
Frankly, if you want to take your concept of modesty to the extreme you would prefer, I do have a suggestion.
Hi Daniel clements,
i find your comment uncalled for, and disrespectful. because of that, i will not reply to anything you share on this post.
have a blessed day and week ahead.
Amen. What I don't understand is why men that are not married to any of the women that are discussing this subject are so insistent that we accept their opinions and go against our own personal convictions. This is about respecting and honoring our husbands. Out of Christian courtesy I think it would be well if they would take a more gentle approach and not try to be the conscience for another mans wife. I'm sure that they have some wisdom but they cannot be the conscience for another person---and more so when it is another mans wife. Shouldn't this be a ladies only subject? I find the attitude expressed by more than one man here disturbing to say the least.
uh please do not end this topic I find it fascinating Cultural issues have been a heated deebate for such along time . This topic seems to be less about debate and a willingness to be led By the Lord as to its true meaning..
I have to admit I NOTreally sure what is meant but I have heard those fluent in the jewish culture speak on it and to them it was said to be a prayer shawl they used at this time and many in the jewish community still do so till this very day.. My friend years ago was a bible worker and she seldom wentto church without her wearing a covering over her head a felt cap of some sort held in by a hair clip odf some sort haha I sorry but i just not familar with womens fashions to be able to get the name down pat,
,, No it not a salvation issue a must know issue but then again if the Lordis bringing it to yourr personal attention Miss Janelle He hasto have a particular reason for doing so .. hmm. Iknow at times when we reading passages that Satan too is just looking over our soldier ( well maybe not satan himself but his angels ) May I ask a sincere question too with it being shrugged off as my over active immagination??
Can not then evil angels whisper to us and tells us certain aspects of the scriptures need to be kept like in the days of old or we can not be saved > Can evil angels bring up passages that are not fully understood and place in our minds what the ywant us to believe it says ? .Iheard aGR8 minister a man I admired a whole lot as a young th Day Adventists tell me that when at times he is in prayer THE Devils angels come in with all these impure thoughts and other issues and it was so hard to concentrate..
May I ask again then if men of God struggle against evil forces is it not easier for evil angels to acess our minds and divert our attention also from that which is a real issue and that which is not??
Oh and Bessy I like your chain of thought also and I want to make myself perfectly clear I AM in no way underminding what u have written in here .. I ENJOY seeing new ones in here write and see what it is they have learned too ..
Hi Uncle Murray, i understand you are not undermining. I also appreciate your contribution.
It may be cultural, but universally, women did cover from the old Testament, throught to the New testament, and head covering became unpopular in the early 20th centuries.
It may also not be a salvation thing, and maybe it is not for all.....maybe. But, if i am convicted to do it and i do not do it, that is disobedience.
Can evil angels seek to decieve us? Yes they can and they actually quote scripture. the Bible says they will seek to decieve even the 'very elect'.
How do we differentiate whose conviction we have? By the guidance of the Holy spirit. he gives us Discernment. Again, if anyone speaks contrary to the Word of God, then that is NOT the right spirit leading.
having prayerfully studied this subject, negelected doing it, and having a guilt conscience and later doing it and finding contentment, and further study and prayer, I am convicted that the spirit behind this is the Spirit of God.