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Samoa's Seventh Day Adventist Church has chosen Sunday as the official day of worship, ending months of confusion.

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Well looks like they are doing the beasts work for him. I bet the sunday worshippers do not go to church on Monday ..That solves my desire to come to Samoa to the SDA church lol...the SD now stands for Sunday Adventist.

A couple of weeks ago this was said:

http://www.talamua.com/?p=4659

Samoa SDA Sunday worship not endorsed

APIA: 22 July 2012: The debate of which day is the ‘seventh day’ Sabbath in Samoa has taken a another twist with confirmation from the Seventh-day Adventist world headquarters in America, there is no documented action by the General Conference endorsing or supporting the action of the Samoa SDA administration to change its Sabbath day of worship to Sunday.

The current Samoa Sabbath dilemma in fact has come about because the SDA leadership in Samoa and the Pacific region failed to accept that the Samoa government implemented a lawful and legitimate shift in the International Date Line, effectively moving Samoa to the same side as New Zealand and Australia for trading purposes.

While most Christian churches in Samoa also call Sunday the Sabbath commemorating the day of Jesus’ resurrection on the first day of the week, Seventh-day Adventists keeps the Sabbath on the ‘seventh day’ of the week which is Saturday like everywhere in the world.

In order to facilitate the IDL adherence change, Samoa missed one day resulting in a ‘one off’ 6 day week. This experience is normal when crossing the IDL from the American to the Asian side. Friday 30th December 2011 in Samoa did not vanish into thin air as promoted by the local church administration whereby making Sunday 1st January 2012 the ‘seventh day’ of the weekly cycle in Samoa.

What happened in December 2011 was not a calendar change, nor was there any name change. What is confusing is the notion being promoted by the local administration and the South Pacific Division (SPD) regional office in Australia, “The practical result in terms of Sabbath keeping is that Sunday not Saturday has become the seventh day of the week.”

In fact, understanding which day is the ‘seventh day’ of the week is quite simple, contrary to a statement in a public notice from the Samoa Tokelau Mission that was published in the local Samoa Observer newspaper 1st July saying, “The subject to the change to the IDL and resulting implications for the weekly cycle and for Sabbath keeping is a complex one.”

Simply, Sunday is still the ‘first day’ of the week and Saturday is still the ‘seventh day’, both before and after the IDL change in Samoa like everywhere else in the world.

In its presentation last year to promote Sunday Sabbath worship to Adventists in Samoa, the statement formulated by the SPD “The present practice of Sabbath keeping in the Pacific Islands around the dateline be maintained” was said to have been endorsed by the General Conference.

The statement refers to the current situation where SDAs in Tonga, Kiribati and recently Wallis and Futuna worship on Sunday; the later countries due to the precedent set in Tonga.

With the confirmation that the General Conference did not endorse or support the change to Sunday worship in Samoa, nor endorsed or supported the view being promoted by the SPD of Sunday keeping for those Island States in the Pacific around the IDL, the motives behind the South Pacific Division’s actions to deliberately mislead is now being questioned.

The General Conference has since referred the Samoa Sabbath issue back to the Pacific regional office to be further discussed. A meeting is scheduled 2 August in Australia to be attended by senior Samoan ministers from Samoa, New Zealand and Australia and SPD executives with the hope of finding a way forward.

Today, church members from 21 Seventh-day Adventist churches around Samoa have returned to keeping the ‘seventh day’ Sabbath on Saturday, joining Adventists in American Samoa and the rest of the world.

Source: eventpolynesia.com

NOW IT'S CHANGED AGAIN? This is satans work...

IS THIS TRUE?  Has anyone confirmed that the Samoa Adventists have acted that Sunday is their worship day?  Or are we in AOL discussing a rumor?  I'm going to check it with the Australasian Division before we continue this discussion.

(This is Lehcar's retired Adventist minister husband.

wow, first the women ordination, now the change of the true sabbath!

Daniel 7:25

King James Version (KJV)

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

its happening again, the end is near!!!!

Thank God for the Signs of the times which points us to the nearness of his return.

matthew 24: 22, 24
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Bird of Paradise, are you and your church or family keeping Sunday or Sabbath according to the current calendar?

 

A M Brown,

I am not living in Samoa. I saw this news on www.radioaustralia.net.au and I thought I should share the news on this site.

We can only pray for our Samoan brothers and sisters to make the right decision.

Please have the information confirmed. and let us all pray for them with a sincere heart. They might be vulnerable and lets demonstrates unity among us and start praying and see the power of prayer. 

Take note, as this issue is also coming to the USA.  In a few years the Benedictine calendar will be in use in the Untied States and throughout the world. It will change the day on which you worship. It will break the seven day cycle as Dec. 31 will no longer be a day in the week, it will be a non day.  Please don't tell me this calendar will not break the seven day cycle as it most certainly does.  

http://www.pina.com.fj/?p=pacnews&m=read&o=37148264750299e0...

http://ssnet.org/blog/2012/01/the-samoan-sabbath-dilemma/

http://adventist.org.au/assets/340382

Just a couple of sites to help us all understand what is going on..... 

HOWEVER..................If you Google the world time it shows what day and time it is anywhere in the world then it should be enough for all Samoans to tell which date and time it is there....also for American Samoa...It is Friday in ordinary Samoa right now...the same as me.

http://www.worldtimeserver.com/

I would be following that regardless.

It is a touching testimony.

Praise God for Pule's courageous decision, and for standing for the right and for being true to her conscience.

We will pray for her mother and your family and the rest of Samoans to worship on true sabbath, and that the Holy Spirit can speak also to the leaders of our church in STM and SPD to make the right decision in the new meeting that brother R.G White just mentioned about.

By the way, would you be able to translate the Song to English?

Happy sabbath.

Hi Folks,


A friend the following quotes to me from the SOP. Many thanks, Meta.

 


The Date Line Problem & Sabbath Time

 

When men are so careful to search and dig to see in regard to the precise period of time, we are to say, God made His Sabbath for a round world; and when the seventh day comes to us in that round world, controlled by the sun that rules the day, it is the time, in all countries and lands, to observe the Sabbath. In the countries where there is no sunset for months, and again no sunrise for months, the period of time will be calculated by records kept. The Lord accepts all the obedience of every creature He has made, according to the circumstances of time in the sun-rising and sun-setting world. Obedience is the test; and all this plowing into the intricacy of the precise minutes and hours of the Sabbath--it is the test of man's obedience to honor and glorify God.  --Letter 167, 1900, pp. 1, 2.


The Date Line Problem

 

     Sister T has been speaking of you to me. She says that you are in some confusion in regard to the day line. Now, my dear sister, this talk about the day line is only a something that Satan has devised as a snare.  – 3SM  p. 318


Seventh-day Sabbath Left in No Uncertainty.-- We have the positive word of God in regard to the Sabbath [Exodus 31:12-18 quoted].   Is it possible that so much importance can be clustered about those who observe the Sabbath, and yet no one can tell when the Sabbath comes? Then where is the people who bear the badge or sign of God? What is the sign? The seventh-day Sabbath, which the Lord blessed and sanctified, and pronounced holy, with great penalties for its violation. 

 

     The seventh-day Sabbath is in no uncertainty. It is God's memorial of His work of creation. It is set up as a heaven-given memorial, to be observed as a sign of obedience. God wrote the whole law with His finger on two tables of stone. . .     Now, my sister, . . . I write . . . to tell you that we are not to give the least credence to the day line theory. It is a snare of Satan brought in by his own agents to confuse minds. You see how utterly impossible for this thing to be, that the world is all right observing Sunday, and God's remnant people are all wrong. This theory of the day line would make all our history for the past fifty-five years a complete fallacy. But we know where we stand. . . . 

    

To Stand Fast by Our Colors.--My sister, let not your faith fail. We are to stand fast by our colors, the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. All those who hold the beginning of their confidence firm unto the end will keep the seventh-day Sabbath, which comes to us as marked by the sun. The fallacy of the day line is a trap of Satan to discourage. I know what I am speaking about. Have faith in God. Shine where you are, as a living stone in God's building.  {3SM 318.5}


MR No. 839 - Keeping the Sabbath on a Round World

 

     We took Brother and Sister Haskell with our team to the station at Dora Creek. On the way Brother Haskell read an article on the day line, written to meet the fallacies that are coming in to make everything uncertain in regard to when the seventh day comes.  {10MR 342.1} 

 

     It would be very strange if the Lord God of heaven should set apart a day for people to observe, and bless and sanctify that day, and give it to man and enjoin upon man that it be kept holy unto the Lord as a memorial that He made the world in six days and rested upon the seventh day and blessed the Sabbath day, and yet that day become so uncertain the world cannot tell definitely when the seventh day comes to us.  {10MR 342.2} 

 

     Here is a day given, and the Lord declares it shall be observed throughout your generations "for a perpetual covenant" (Exodus 31:16), as a sign of obedience and loyalty to God, and yet it is so obscured no one can tell when it comes! Oh, what fallacies men will resort to in order to carry out false theories. The Lord pronounced His blessing upon all who keep holy the Sabbath day. His commandments are given to a thousand generations, and when that period is ended the redeemed host shall be in the city of God and observed the Sabbath there, and especially come up to worship God from Sabbath to Sabbath and from one new moon to another. (Isaiah 66:23.)-- Ms. 173, 1897, pp. 4, 5. (Diary, June, 1897.)

 

MR No. 958 - Sabbathkeeping in Arctic Lands

 

     God rested on the seventh day, and set it apart for man to observe in honor of His creation of the heavens and the earth in six literal days. He blessed and sanctified and made holy the day of rest. When men are so careful to search and dig to see in regard to the precise period of time, we are to say, God made His Sabbath for a round world; and when the seventh day comes to us in that round world, controlled by the sun that rules the day, it is the time, in all countries and lands, to observe the Sabbath. In the countries where there is no sunset for months, and again no sunrise for months, the period of time will be calculated by records kept. But God has a world large enough, and proper and right for the human beings He has created to inhabit it, without finding homes in those lands so objectionable in very many, many ways.  {12MR 159.1} 

 

     The Lord accepts all the obedience of every creature He has made, according to the circumstances of time in the sun-rising and sun-setting world. Obedience is the test; and all this plowing into the intricacy of the precise minutes and hours of the Sabbath--it is the test of man's obedience to honor and glorify God. To sin, or transgression of His law, God will prove a consuming fire. The Sabbath observance is "a sign between Me and you throughout your generations forever."--Letter 167, 1900, pp. 1, 2. (To G. A. Irwin, March 23, 1900.)

White Estate Washington, D. C. Dec. 2, 1982  {12MR 159.2} 


 

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