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What about music in church? Is rock music with drums ok? Aren't we just praising the Lord
with any music style as long as the lyrics are ok? What about our youth? Do we rock the church to keep them in? Doesn't God accept our music as long as we are sincere, even with drums and electric guitars? Below is my analysis, do you agree or disagree? Why or why not?



Satan Attacks the Remnant Church through Music

2 Cor. 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
Deut. 14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto Himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
A Prophecy for Today
“It is impossible to estimate too largely the work that the Lord will accomplish through His proposed vessels in carrying out His mind and purpose. The things you have described as taking place in Indiana, the Lord has shown me would take place just before the close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be demonstrated. There will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. The senses of rational beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted to make right decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy Spirit”. {2SM 36.2}
Drums
You may search the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and you will never find a reference to drums. That is because they were never a part of the worship service in ancient Israel. Drums have always existed. The problem is that drums are too easily used to create a hypnotic, rhythmic beat that has been used by the practitioner to induce demonic spirits into the supplicant.
Drums are "played to summon up magic powers" (The Illustrated Book of Signs & Symbols)... and are "used in shamanic rituals to heal people. It is believed that the shaman can communicate with the spirit world THROUGH DRUMMING." (Musical Instruments). "Pagan dances and rituals are always accompanied by the incessant BEAT of DRUMS." (Satan's Music Exposed)
Robert Palmer, contributing editor to Rolling Stone... advocate and lover of rock music, writes, in Rock & Roll An Unruly History: "Bata drums [drums used in voodoo], sacred to the Yoruba people of Nigeria and Cuba... provided a template for the inner rhythms of rock and roll... serve as conduits for spiritual energies, linking individual human consciousness with the gods... the drum rhythms that make rock and roll can ultimately be traced back to African music of a primarily spiritual or ritual nature. In a sense, rock and roll is a kind of 'voodoo'... Drums are used in "voodoo" possession... drummers tap out their rhythm patterns like signals to the realm of the gods, inviting and enticing them to come and POSSESS their devotees."
Little Richard, the self-professed "architect of rock 'n roll", readily admits Satan's control and influence in his life and rock music: "My true belief about Rock 'n' Roll - is this: "I believe this kind of music is demonic.... A lot of the BEATS in music today are taken from voodoo, from the voodoo DRUMS." (The Life and Times of Little Richard)

Though this is not always the case, drums have been used prolifically for sensual kinds of music that focuses the mind upon lustful avenues that Satan uses to destroy the soul. Rock and roll, jazz, blues, hip-hop, and all the hybrids, are modern examples of these kinds of music. In modern times, these music styles are used in the dance clubs, the taverns, and other venues where sin and debauchery are present. More explicitly, rock-n-roll and its variants may be more specifically applied to the drug and alcohol scene.
It is also true any kind of instrument can be used to produce these kinds of sensual rhythms. I recently bought an Accapella album at a thrift store recently, (voices only) not knowing what it was, after playing it, it was all jazz style so I threw it in the trash. But drums are the worst offender by far. It is significant that other instruments can be used for sacred music that is spiritually uplifting, but this appears to be quite problematic for drums.
Deviant Music Styles in the Church
In the 1970’s, there started in America a fusion of type music styles together with Christian lyrics. More popularly called Christian Contemporary Music. It is actually a marriage of the Holy and the profane. It is a misguided attempt to attract the youth into the church, and appeal to th unrenewed hearts of many. Rick Warren describes his Saddleback Church as the church “that rocks.” But the problem is, if one uses questionable music styles to attract the youth, what happens when the music is not there? They leave. This also creates a desire for more of the same among some who find pleasure in it. Deviant music styles focus the mind upon sensual things, and the Lord is forgotten!
It really is just a party without the alcohol and drugs in some regards. Many seekers come to get a uplifting spiritual experience in which moving and dancing to the music is common. The worldly, sensual music creates an excitement, a euphoria that is intoxicating. This is the satanic delusion, as the emotional stimulation is mistaken for the moving of the Holy Spirit. The presence of the Holy Spirit, along with the experience of salvation, is not based on “feelings” but is based upon God’s truth, and obedience to that truth. We will experience joy and happiness as we serve and worship the Lord in spirit and truth, but this experience cannot be wholly based upon the euphoria and good feelings produced by a particular music that is deviant in nature.
Pastors and church youth leaders get caught up in this delusion. They see the youth attendance increasing-the excitement that accompanies the music in church is similar to the same rapture exhibited at rock concerts. All may say they received a blessing, but little do they know where the “blessing” came from. Satan is there to impress the mind that this music is part of a true religious experience, and blessed by God.
Satan is focusing his attacks more specifically on the SDA church, than ever before. Bible principles are falling by the wayside as ill-advised attempts at increased church growth are made at the expense of Bible truth. What is the answer? Do we stand idly by and let Satan assinate our youth and members? It is long past time for Godly pastors and leaders to take a strong Bible stand for sacred music irregardless of what the world does and says. There is no reason to be misled upon these matters. The eternal lives of the congregants are at stake, music is a powerful influence for good, or for evil.
Fanny Crosby
Know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a FRIEND of the world is the ENEMY of God." James 4:4
Fanny Crosby is the greatest hymn writer that ever lived, writing over 9,000 songs! Before Fanny experienced salvation and her heart was changed, at 45 years old, she wrote many secular songs. But after she got saved — things were different. . . Here is what Fanny said about mixing Christian and worldly music:
"Sometimes I need to reject the music proposed for my songs because the musicians misunderstand that the Fanny Crosby who once wrote for the people in the saloons has merely changed the lyrics. Oh my no. The church must never sing it's songs to the melodies of the world." (Danny Castle, video "What's wrong with Christian Rock")
LET US Sing a New Song, not the ones We sang in the World!
When we come to Jesus He will put a new song in our hearts! We should develop a distaste for the rhythms and styles the world uses. I was a rock guitarist in the world for many years, playing and singing all of the worldly styles listed above, to include barbershop singing. Even after salvation came, I still tried to cling to the deviant music styles with “good lyrics” thinking it was OK. After extensive study and prayer, I came to a better understanding of music that leads to God, and is acceptable for worship given to Him, and that which leads away from God and is unacceptable to Him for worship purposes.
And he hath put a NEW SONG in my mouth, even PRAISE unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD. Psalm 40:1-3
I will sing a NEW SONG unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee. Psalm 144:9
Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a NEW SONG, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Psalm 149:1
The Power of Song

“The history of the songs of the Bible is full of suggestion as to the uses and benefits of music and song. Music is often perverted to serve purposes of evil, and it thus becomes one of the most alluring agencies of temptation. But, rightly employed, it is a precious gift of God, designed to uplift the thoughts to high and noble themes, to inspire and elevate the soul. {Ed 167.3}
As the children of Israel, journeying through the wilderness, cheered their way by the music of sacred song, so God bids His children today gladden their pilgrim life. There are few means more effective for fixing His words in the memory than repeating them in song. And such
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song has wonderful power. It has power to subdue rude and uncultivated natures; power to quicken thought and to awaken sympathy, to promote harmony of action, and to banish the gloom and foreboding that destroy courage and weaken effort. {Ed 167.4}
It is one of the most effective means of impressing the heart with spiritual truth. How often to the soul hard-pressed and ready to despair, memory recalls some word of God's--the long-forgotten burden of a childhood song, --and temptations lose their power, life takes on new meaning and new purpose, and courage and gladness are imparted to other souls! {Ed 168.1}
The value of song as a means of education should never be lost sight of. Let there be singing in the home, of songs that are sweet and pure, and there will be fewer words of censure and more of cheerfulness and hope and joy. Let there be singing in the school, and the pupils will be drawn closer to God, to their teachers, and to one another. {Ed 168.2}
As a part of religious service, singing is as much an act of worship as is prayer. Indeed, many a song is prayer. If the child is taught to realize this, he will think more of the meaning of the words he sings and will be more susceptible to their power. {Ed 168.3}
As our Redeemer leads us to the threshold of the Infinite, flushed with the glory of God, we may catch the themes of praise and thanksgiving from the heavenly choir round about the throne; and as the echo of the angels' song is awakened in our earthly homes, hearts will be drawn closer to the heavenly singers. Heaven's communion begins on earth. We learn here the keynote of its praise. {Ed 168.4}
Here is the link to SDA music guidelines adopted by the church in 1972.
http://www.iamaonline.com/worshipmusic/Guidelines%20Toward%20An%20S...
Another helpful site:
http://www.av1611.org/cqguide.html

Steve Billiter

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very informative and true 

Being a man of color, you think you would know better.

Leon

Actually, not true. "You may search the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and you will never find a reference to drums." A "Timbrel" was a small drum or something like a tambourine. The Bible has many references to it:

"Then Miriam the prophet, Aaron’s sister, took a timbrel in her hand, and all the women followed her, with timbrels and dancing.". (Exodus 15:20)


Psalm 149:3 "Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp."

Psalm 150:4 "Praise him with timbrel and dancing, praise him with the strings and pipe".

Psalm 81:2. "Begin the music, strike the timbrel, play the melodious harp and lyre."

Jeremiah 31:4 "I will build you up again, and you, Virgin Israel, will be rebuilt. Again you will take up your timbrels and go out to dance with the joyful."


(Shudder). It even includes "dancing"! How heathen!

This is a racist rant; that is hardy informative. It panders to the ignorant or the bigoted. Percussion instruments have been a part of Isreal since Gods ordination of the nation. African drums and percussion are a gift from God, and when played in accordance to his will they are as beautiful as any other instrument.

Leon

We should not allow our culture to determine how we worship our Creator.

Jason African Culture is as valid as any other culture. Perpetuating the myth that percussion instruments are from the Devil, is just plain racist. Africans like any other Culture have wonderful gifts from God, and have contributed mightily to Christian music. The various drums, tambourine, timpani and other instruments of percussion can be used to celebrate our love for Christ. As a man of color stop perpetuating hate, this myth has been used to demean others and separate. And this time before Christ return is one of coming together.

In Love

Leon

By not allowing drums you are letting culture determine worship.

Shannon do you understand what you are suggesting? So anything that shows its head must be allowed then, right, since if we don't allow it we are keeping the Christan culture? Do you see where this leads? Christianity stated with Jesus and his twelve disciples then spread to Jerusalem and the surrounding communities then countries etc. The culture of these countries would be changed by the gospel. Countries where Christianity was not predominant kept their pagan cultures like drums, dancing , superstitions, and all kinds of strange and ridiculous evil practices. For example sacrificing their children or making them pass through the fire, cannibalism, polygamy, child brides, having sex with minors when they are a certain age to introduce them to adulthood, praying and dancing for demonstration, sacred cows, etc.etc. etc. These cultures should not be allowed to influence Christianity..

I suggest that rather than using culture (or lack of culture) to determine worship patterns we should use the Bible.

Yes, see and observe how it was done in the early church , after Christ when up .

So you wouldn't even use a piano, organ, or microphone in church?

Of course yes, if it's done to the glory of God. How many times have you seen people dancing when a microphone, organ or the piano is properly used?

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