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  • "We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, and cage of every unclean and hateful bird." Letter 51, 9/6/1886


"That these men should stand in a sacred place, to be as the voice of God to the people, as we once believed the General Conference to be--that is past". --Last Day Events 50.4 

“As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” -Manuscript 57, October  12, 1895 & Manuscript Releases, vol 17, p 178

"The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of Christ is not in her midst." -Notebook Leaflets, p 99
visit the link for more information.
http://www.sdaapostasy.org/SDAstatements.htm#Sabbath
Signs that we are been betrayed
1. The organisation no longer believes in that anti- Christ is the papacy.
 "...if he was taught that the Pope is the anti-christ, I think that would be a misunderstanding. I don't feel that's what we as a church believe.... ...[the anti-christ], that's not a person. That's not an individual..."(Kenneth Cox, representing the SDA church on WTGL TV interview, February 8, 1993.)

2.They no longer believe that the mark of the beast is Sunday:
"...the Sabbath...[is] God's sign of obedience....But we must beware! Anyone whose focus is on the Sabbath...who looks at his Sabbathkeeping as the ground of his salvation...is a candidate for the mark of the beast." Adventist Review, September 7, 1989, p 26.
3.They believe that we should worship on Sunday on not pay the Sabbath much consideration although God gave us the Sabbath as a sign between His people and himself.
"All busy people yearn for a day of rest. God Himself gave His permission, a command even, for a day to allow the soul and spirit to be refreshed. This is God’s gift to us. He will take care of us physically and spiritually if we follow His plan. Our systems need the replenishment. Sunday is a special day for this worship and refreshment.... "Thoreau said, if you want to destroy the Christian faith, first take away Sunday. He was right; it’s a holy day, for those who know Jesus Christ as Saviour it cannot be a holiday. For those of you who have gathered around the cross and have been saved and washed clean by His blood, it is a sacrilege to do anything else on that day except to celebrate what God has done. "If we abuse Sunday, we’re going to destroy something beautiful that God has given. No Sunday means no church; no church means no worship; no worship means no religion; no religion means no morality; no morality means no society; no society means no government; no government means anarchy. That s the choice before us." Confessions of a Nomad: What We Learned in Sinai’s Shadow, page 86 and 120, by Carolyn and William Self, copyrighted by the SDA Ministerial Association and published by the Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1998.

3. the name Seventh Day Adventist is a name for persons who hold true to the beliefs of the SDA it is not an organisation and yet the General Conference is carrying members to court suing them for using the name. Some of the persons are: John Maric in 1984-1987. Raphel Perez. No wonder they have trademarked the name running it like a buisness as they said.

"We've got to PROTECT that name ["Seventh-day Adventist"], because we are giving a false impression to the world...And this church/state business; be a little careful how you use that, because that is not in scripture:  separation of Church and State.  That is a particular North American philosophy. It exists no where else in the world." Neal C. Wilson [Former Seventh Day Adventist General Conference President regarding the trademark], P.U.C. Sanctuary, June 18, 1988

 

4. Adventist vatican

We now have a Seventh day Vatican liking SDA to the mother church.

http://www.sdaapostasy.org/SDAstatements.htm#Sabbath

 

5. They no longer consider the work of Sister White has relevant to today.

 

There are so much more email: barbeebryan89@yahoo.com for queries, complaints or comments.

Its time to separate and join the remnant which is a small group. The Bible said many will be deceived and only a few saved.


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also Ellen White spoke of the SDA church repeating the mistakes of ancient Israel.

-she said that we are repeating the same mistake, but she did not said that like what happen to Israel, this church will be destroyed by God, because she even said that this church, though it is enfeeble and defective, it will exist 'til Jesus comes...

 

Remember the word, enfeeble and defective, it means that it is not perfect, but EGW says that it will exist til Jesus comes, so if i will go with your conclusions, how can you balance it in that statement mentioned by EGW herself.

 

Sir, just because the church has falter, doesn't mean that all the people in it are like Judas. Because there are people in the church who were striving with God to make a change inside the Church.

 

Neal Wilson himself:

"there is another universal and truly catholic organization, the Seventh-day Adventist Church." (Neal C. Wilson, General Conference President of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, in Adventist Review, March 5, 1981, p 3).

-Do you know sir the meaning of the word catholic? the word catholic means universal.

So if we will analyze this sentence mention by Neal Wilson he is saying that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is universal organization.

 

As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” -Manuscript 57,

Ellen White mention this statement on the year 1890. The reason of this is because there are people and leaders in the GC who wants to centralize the leading of the church, they want the church to be led by few people. So EGW made comments like what you have quoted.

- this is the reason why she was exiled to Australia, but still it is God's will, for if it did not happen, AVONDALE school our institution might not be established there.

 

But on the year 1901, the ways of GC has been change, so EGW made statements that the GC shall have authority.

 

And you know what this thing that you are doing has been done even by the son of Ellen White, Edson White. He uses her mothers statement during 1890 to attack the GC, but her mother counseled her by saying, "this statement of hers might be applicable if the GC did not change."

 

So i would like to tell you sir/ma'am, that not all the things that you've been reading in EGW writings is really what it meant.

Don't make conclusions on a certain words or topic you've read until you learn and see all the comments regarding the certain topic or words that is made by EGW herself.

 

Yes EGW mention it, but is that really what she meant? Don't read it sir according to your context but according to her context; same is true with the Bible. And when you learn that one sir, I might agree on your conclusions...God bless!

 

Where there is strife, there is pride,
   but wisdom is found in those who take advice. Proverbs 13:10

-Do you know sir the meaning of the word catholic? the word catholic means universal.

I would like to also point out that the term catholic also means- "of the Roman Catholic faith" & "including a wide variety of things; all-embracing".

It would make no sense to say "there is another universal and truly catholic organization" with the word Catholic meaning Universal so it would then read "there is another universal and trulyuniversal organization" that would be pointless. Being all embracing is nothing good because like Catholics the teaching is over 80% pagan.

though it is enfeeble and defective, it will exist 'til Jesus comes

This doesnt mean anything good the catholic church and satan well also be here till Jesus come they will be persecuting the saints. Also no one said anything about the church being destroyed and Ellen White spake about the church betraying the the saints and that the saints are a obscure people this is vs a larger Organisation.

Ellen White mention this statement on the year 1890. The reason of this is because there are people and leaders in the GC who wants to centralize the leading of the church, they want the church to be led by few people. So EGW made comments like what you have quoted.

- this is the reason why she was exiled to Australia, but still it is God's will, for if it did not happen, AVONDALE school our institution might not be established there.

In 1903 the church went and made one general conference which they were counselled against. Ellen White told them not to but they still went ahead and did it. So yes the church did change but for the worse.

Don't make conclusions on a certain words or topic you've read until you learn and see all the comments regarding the certain topic or words that is made by EGW herself.

And you know what this thing that you are doing has been done even by the son of Ellen White, Edson White. He uses her mothers statement during 1890 to attack the GC, but her mother counseled her by saying, "this statement of hers might be applicable if the GC did not change."

The church has not changed from those times until now. Wait YES the church has changed for the worse. We even have SDA pastors saying Allah is God and He is the God same God of Christians and the Quran teaches the truths of the Bible. When this could never be as far form the truth.

As for the Bible do you have another interpretation form what i said? I would like to know.

 

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