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What does the Bible say about self-defense?"

Under what circumstances is self-defense appropriate?

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If you follow Jesus self-defense is newer a option. 

Luk 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Ps 18:32 [It is] God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way perfect. 

18:33 He maketh my feet like hinds' [feet], and setteth me upon my high places.
18:34 He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.

Ps 144:1 [A Psalm] of David. Blessed [be] the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, [and] my fingers to fight:

You need all scripture to be thouroughly furnished unto all good works.  And "turn the other cheek" is not a new teaching, and it doesn't negate all these other verses.

Lam.  3:30 He giveth [his] cheek to him that smiteth him: he is filled full with reproach.  

1 Kings 22:24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?

Job 16:10 They have gaped upon me with their mouth; they have smitten me upon the cheek reproachfully; they have gathered themselves together against me. 

16:11 God hath delivered me to the ungodly, and turned me over into the hands of the wicked.

Is.  50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

What what you call a man who stands by and allows his wife to be raped and his children to be killed in front of his face and finally killed himself after violent thugs break into his home?

A follower of Jesus or a coward?

What would you call a man who defends his innocent wife and children by pulling out a firearm and shooting said thugs dead on the spot?

A murderer or a Christian hero?

Those possessed of demons and out of control, who are driven to steal, kill, commit atrocities of the vilest sort that you don't even want to think of, these should be stopped by any means necessary, whether by spiritual or physical means or combination of the two.

When a brute beast made to be taken and destroyed is killed, the possessing demon must leave its former host seeking a human, or if need be, even an animal to inhabit. There has been an outbreak of demonic people going crazy nude in the streets attacking people and smashing car windshields with their nude bodies. These are on YouTube for all to see.
These are the low end of the Satanic spiritual organizations, while the worst are the movers and shakers at the top of the New World Order, intent on destroying the world, humanity and are hell bent on trans humanism and Luciferianism in worshipping of fallen angels directly, as well as communing with as many drug ones as they can get crammed into their being.

Failure to understand spiritual reality and scripture and operate the nine manifestations of Holy Spirit as well as know the history, goals, plans and nature of the enemy as well as apathy and failure to make any meaningful opposition to the evil plans has allowed it to flourish.

Frankly, mainstream Christianity is a complete failure and an apostasy and one could even say treason against the True God by apostasy and being friends with the world. One cannot serve God and mammon.

Anyone who would not defend his family or an innocent is worse than an unbeliever, and irregardless of what he thinks is in reality an unbeliever, though professing to be a "believer."

The twisted logic and inability to reason and follow God's principles and walk in love and power and in bravery to the defense of self, family, goodness, civilization and mankind itself is incredible. This is the age of treason against God and man. Which are you going to serve?
I attempted to correct error made by auto correct which won't edit now, "communing with as many demons as they can get crammed into their being" is how end of second paragraph should read.

I also wrote more which was unable to be saved.

"Those possessed of demons" do they show signs of manifestations? I think many of these demons just show up at certain churches and wait by the door for a willing host.  Rock music playing and the preacher slapping everyone in the head and knocking them to the floor.

Many people are looking for spiritual power but want nothing to do with a Holy life that is pleasing to God.

Nonviolence according to Jesus


Jesus said, "Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account." Matthew 5.11


Jesus said, "You have learnt how it was said to our ancestors: 'You must not kill; and anyone does kill he must answer for it before the court.' But I say this to you: anyone who is angry with his brother will answer for it before the court." Mt. 5.21-22


Jesus said, "You have learnt how it was said: 'Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.' But I say to you, Offer the wicked man no resistance. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; if a man takes you to law and would have your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone orders you to go one mile, go two miles with him." Mt. 5.38-41


Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy; But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those whose persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Mt. 5.43-46


Jesus said, "You will be hated by all men on account of my name; but the man who stands firm to the end will be saved. If they persecute you in one town, take refuge in the next; and if they persecute you in that, take refuge in another." Mt. 10.22-23


Jesus said, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; fear him rather who can destroy both body and soul in hell." Mt. 10.28


Jesus said, "If anyone wants to be a follower of mine, let him renounce himself and take up his cross and follow me. For anyone who wants to save his life will lose it; but anyone who loses his life for my sake will find it." Mt. 16.24-25


Jesus said, "I tell you solemnly, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." Mt. 18.3


Jesus said, "See that you never despise any of these little ones, for I tell you that their angels in heaven are continually in the presence of my Father in heaven." Mt. 18.10


Jesus said, "anyone who wants to be great among you must be your servant, and anyone who wants to be first among you must be your slave, just as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve." Mt. 20.26-28

Jesus said, "You must love your neighbor as yourself." Mt. 22.40


Jesus said, "I was hungry and you never gave me food; I was thirsty and you never gave me anything to drink; I was a stranger and you never made me welcome, naked and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me . . . I tell you solemnly, in so far as you neglected to do this to one of the least of these, you neglected to do it to me." And they will go away to eternal punishment, and the virtuous to eternal life." Mt 25.42-43,45-46


Jesus said, "It is from within, from men's hearts, that evil intentions emerge: fornication, theft, murder, adultery, avarice, malice, deceit, indecency, envy, slander, pride, folly. All these evil things come from within and make a man unclean." Mk. 7.21-23


Jesus said, "you know the commandments: you must not kill..." Mark 10.18


Jesus said, "when you stand in prayer, forgive whatever you have against anybody, so that your Father in heaven may forgive your failings too." Mk. 11.25


Jesus said, "if anyone has two tunics, he must share with the man who has none, and the one with something to eat must do the same." Luke 3.11


Jesus said, "No intimidation! No extortion! Be content with your pay." Lk 3.14


Jesus said, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who treat you badly." Lk. 6.27-28


Jesus said, "Be compassionate as your Father is compassionate. Do not judge, and you will not be judge yourselves; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned yourselves; grant pardon, and you will be pardoned." Lk 6.27


Jesus said, "why do you call me, "Lord, Lord" and not do what I say?" Lk. 6.46


Jesus said, "What is written in the law? What do you read there? He replied, "You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself." "You have answered right," said Jesus "do this and life is yours." Lk 10.26-28


Jesus (on the cross) said, "Father, forgive them, they do not know what they are doing." Lk 23.34


Jesus said, "If there is one of you who has not sinned, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." John. 8.7


Jesus said, "I give you a new commandment: love one another; just as I have loved you, you also must love one another. By this love you have for one another, everyone will know that you are my disciples." Jn. 13.34-35


Jesus said, "Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me;" Jn. 14.21


Jesus said, "This is my commandment: love one another, as I have loved you." Jn. 14.22


Jesus said, "What I command you is to love one another." Jn. 14.27


Jesus said, "If they persecuted me, they will persecute you too; if they kept my word, they will keep yours as well. But it will be on my account that they will do all this, because they do not know the one who sent me." Jn. 15.20-21


Jesus said, "I have told you all this so that you may find peace in me. In the world you will have trouble, but be brave: I have conquered the world." Jn. 16.33


Jesus said, "I have made your name known to them and will continue to make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them, and so that I may be in them." Jn. 17.26


Jesus said, "mine is not a kingdom of this world; if my kingdom were of this world, my men would have fought to prevent my being surrendered to the Jews. But my kingdom is not of this kind." Jn. 18.36

Luke 22:36.  What was the sword used for, the AR-15 of the day used for.

A difficult question, and one in which Christians may differ.

1.  God allowed his nation, Israel, to defend itself.  That much is clear. 

2.  God's preferred method of defense was for us to be still, and wait for His salvation.  And yet there were many times where He also commanded the Israelites to attack.  There were other times (Elisha and the surrounding Ammonites who were struck blind) when He did the entire defense, and no one was killed.  Gideon was commanded to attack.  David was commanded to attack.  Was that the times, or has God changed His mind about it?

3.  The Bible has texts which tell us to make our "swords and spears" into "plowshares".  There are other texts which tell us to do the opposite.

4.  Jesus told His disciples to "put up your sword", and at other times, He said to "sell your garment and buy a sword". 

What are we to do with this?  Especially when we realize that the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not murder" (not "Thou shalt not kill", as I was brought up with).  Just pulling out the texts that argue our preferred conclusion is not valid.  How does the Bible explain itself on this topic?

It is clear that there have been recent times where it took violence to prevent evil from swamping civilization.  No one would argue that resistance to Hitler was a good thing.  Or that resistance to the Japanese aggression was a good thing.  What are we to do?

Killing is to defend yourself or another.  Murder, is to kill someone for the sake of taking a life for entertainment or convenience.  Thousands of women murder babies for convenience on a regular basis.  In essence, one gender in the United States has been given by the Government a license to Murder.

That is an interesting point. Many in the SDA church are very vocal when it comes to an object like a fire arm which has no life and does no harm unless the trigger is pulled by someone who has murder in their heart. It would seem these vocal Bible students are not up on the causes of sin. You can murder someone with yarn and two sticks very easily if you choose to do so but I don't see the call for removing yarn from homes.

What is saddening is how non-vocal many SDA members are to abortion. If you want to talk about the innocent being murdered that is where it is at. If anything there should be no abortion anywhere at SDA hospitals or clinics. I guess the sight of firearm is causes more emotion than a doctor in a lab coat with forceps and a vacuum cleaner.

Yes,  it is difficult for me to take seriously strong negative opinions about whether or not it is okay to defend one's self from someone who does not condemn abortion equally as vigorously.


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