Self-defense and the Bible
What does the Bible say about self-defense?"
Under what circumstances is self-defense appropriate?
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Permalink Reply by Elijah on
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If you follow Jesus self-defense is newer a option.
Luk 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
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Permalink Reply by rush4hire on
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Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
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22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.Romans 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Ps 18:32 [It is] God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way perfect.
18:33 He maketh my feet like hinds' [feet], and setteth me upon my high places.
18:34 He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms.Ps 144:1 [A Psalm] of David. Blessed [be] the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, [and] my fingers to fight:
You need all scripture to be thouroughly furnished unto all good works. And "turn the other cheek" is not a new teaching, and it doesn't negate all these other verses.
Lam. 3:30 He giveth [his] cheek to him that smiteth him: he is filled full with reproach.
1 Kings 22:24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?
Job 16:10 They have gaped upon me with their mouth; they have smitten me upon the cheek reproachfully; they have gathered themselves together against me.
16:11 God hath delivered me to the ungodly, and turned me over into the hands of the wicked.
Is. 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
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Permalink Reply by RICK on
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INTERESTING QUESTION. JUDGES 15: 14&15 SHOWS GOD'S VENGEANCE, POWER AND GLORY.
ON MANY DOCUMENTED OCCASIONS, GOD INSTRUCTED HIS LEADERS (MOSTLY MEN OF VALOR WITH NOT THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF BEING A WIMP OR SISSY) TO HURT AND KILL OTHERS, THIS GOD DID FOR HIS OWN PURPOSE/GLORY.
I SOMETIMES THINK OF THE MEN ISRAEL WHO WENT OFF TO "WAR" TO KILL ENTIRE CITIES AS THEY WERE INSTRUCTED BY GOD, THEY KILLED MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, THE OLD, EVEN THE ANIMALS, HOW DID THESE MEN HOLD UP, MENTALLY? EVEN IF GOD GAVE THEM A SUPER MENTAL SHIELD OF SORTS, HOW DID THEY HOLD UP?
ON THE OTHER HAND, MAKES YOUR WONDER, IF GOD WANTED THE ENEMIES DEAD FOR WHATEVER REASON, (HE CREATED, HE CAN ELIMINATE), THEN WHY NOT USE HIS POWER TO JUST KILL EVERYONE WHILE THEY SLEPT?
MY ANSWER.... THERE IS NO GLORY FOR GOD IN DOING IT THIS WAY. YES HE COULD DO IT THAT WAY, BUT IF HE SENDS HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL TO KILL OFF THE ENEMY, THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, COUNTRIES, WILL SERVE AS WITNESS THAT THE GOD OF ISRAEL GAVE THE ENEMY TO THEM. THERE IS GLORY TO GOD IN THIS WAY. JUST A THOUGHT.
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Permalink Reply by Don Edstrom on
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What what you call a man who stands by and allows his wife to be raped and his children to be killed in front of his face and finally killed himself after violent thugs break into his home?
A follower of Jesus or a coward?
What would you call a man who defends his innocent wife and children by pulling out a firearm and shooting said thugs dead on the spot?
A murderer or a Christian hero?
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Permalink Reply by James French on
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Those possessed of demons and out of control, who are driven to steal, kill, commit atrocities of the vilest sort that you don't even want to think of, these should be stopped by any means necessary, whether by spiritual or physical means or combination of the two.
When a brute beast made to be taken and destroyed is killed, the possessing demon must leave its former host seeking a human, or if need be, even an animal to inhabit. There has been an outbreak of demonic people going crazy nude in the streets attacking people and smashing car windshields with their nude bodies. These are on YouTube for all to see.
These are the low end of the Satanic spiritual organizations, while the worst are the movers and shakers at the top of the New World Order, intent on destroying the world, humanity and are hell bent on trans humanism and Luciferianism in worshipping of fallen angels directly, as well as communing with as many drug ones as they can get crammed into their being.
Failure to understand spiritual reality and scripture and operate the nine manifestations of Holy Spirit as well as know the history, goals, plans and nature of the enemy as well as apathy and failure to make any meaningful opposition to the evil plans has allowed it to flourish.
Frankly, mainstream Christianity is a complete failure and an apostasy and one could even say treason against the True God by apostasy and being friends with the world. One cannot serve God and mammon.
Anyone who would not defend his family or an innocent is worse than an unbeliever, and irregardless of what he thinks is in reality an unbeliever, though professing to be a "believer."
The twisted logic and inability to reason and follow God's principles and walk in love and power and in bravery to the defense of self, family, goodness, civilization and mankind itself is incredible. This is the age of treason against God and man. Which are you going to serve?
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I attempted to correct error made by auto correct which won't edit now, "communing with as many demons as they can get crammed into their being" is how end of second paragraph should read.
I also wrote more which was unable to be saved.
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Permalink Reply by Raymond Rennek on
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"Those possessed of demons" do they show signs of manifestations? I think many of these demons just show up at certain churches and wait by the door for a willing host. Rock music playing and the preacher slapping everyone in the head and knocking them to the floor.
Many people are looking for spiritual power but want nothing to do with a Holy life that is pleasing to God.
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INTERESTING QUESTION. JUDGES 15: 14&15 SHOWS GOD'S VENGEANCE, POWER AND GLORY.
ON MANY DOCUMENTED OCCASIONS, GOD INSTRUCTED HIS LEADERS (MOSTLY MEN OF VALOR WITH NOT THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF BEING A WIMP OR SISSY) TO HURT AND KILL OTHERS, THIS GOD DID FOR HIS OWN PURPOSE/GLORY.
I SOMETIMES THINK OF THE MEN ISRAEL WHO WENT OFF TO "WAR" TO KILL ENTIRE CITIES AS THEY WERE INSTRUCTED BY GOD, THEY KILLED MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, THE OLD, EVEN THE ANIMALS, HOW DID THESE MEN HOLD UP, MENTALLY? EVEN IF GOD GAVE THEM A SUPER MENTAL SHIELD OF SORTS, HOW DID THEY HOLD UP?
ON THE OTHER HAND, MAKES YOUR WONDER, IF GOD WANTED THE ENEMIES DEAD FOR WHATEVER REASON, (HE CREATED, HE CAN ELIMINATE), THEN WHY NOT USE HIS POWER TO JUST KILL EVERYONE WHILE THEY SLEPT?
MY ANSWER.... THERE IS NO GLORY FOR GOD IN DOING IT THIS WAY. YES HE COULD DO IT THAT WAY, BUT IF HE SENDS HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL TO KILL OFF THE ENEMY, THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, COUNTRIES, WILL SERVE AS WITNESS THAT THE GOD OF ISRAEL GAVE THE ENEMY TO THEM. THERE IS GLORY TO GOD IN THIS WAY. JUST A THOUGHT.
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WELL IF HE SAYS HE IS CHRISTIAN, THEN I CALL HIM A CHRISTIAN. KILLING THOSE WHO DESERVE IT, DOES NOT MAKE YOU A MURDERER. GOD REQUESTED MANY KILLINGS OF THE NATIONS WHO WERE A THREAT TO ISRAEL, MANY OF THEM WERE DESCENDANTS OF THE NEPHALIM. GOD GAVE SAMSON POWER AND ENDURANCE TO KILL 1000 FOOLISH MEN WITH A BONE, HA HA.
NO, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES PLACED BY DON'S QUESTIONS, I SAY HE IS A MERE MAN, IF HE CLAIMS TO BE CHRISTIAN, BETTER YET.
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