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The Health Message is apart of the 3 Angels Messages. It is the "right arm" of the 3 Angels Message, which is the Everlasting Gospel. The Health Message is particularly connected to the 1st Angels Message, which tells us to "GIVE GLORY TO GOD". We give glory to God by reflecting His character and following His ways.

 

*Revelation 14:6,7---"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."

 

...We give "GLORY TO GOD" by reflecting His character and following His ways. We also give "GLORY TO GOD" in how we look, dress, eat, and drink. 1 Corinthians 10:31 makes this more clear.

 

*1 Corinthians 10:31---"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."

 

...This is how the Health Message is connected to the 3 Angels Message, through the announcement of the 1st Angel, which is to GIVE GOD GLORY. We give God glory in ALL that we do, including "eating & drinking". This is why God gave His last day church the HEALTH MESSAGE. We are told that meat eating should be done away with and that we (SDA's) should NOT eat cheese or other dairy products. Most of us agree on meat-eating. But many of us have not seen the light on eating dairy products (cheese, eggs, milk, butter, cream).

 

The SOP says,

 

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  • Pure Vegetarianism/Veganism

1868 "Cheese should never be introduced into the stomach." 2T 68

1883 "All the elements of nutrition are contained in the fruits, vegetables, and grains." HL 96

1889 "Years ago I had a testimony of reproof for the managers in our campmeetings bringing upon the ground and selling to our people cheese and other hurtful things." CD 329

1890 "The effect of cheese is deleterious." CH 114

1896 "The simple grains, fruits of the trees, and vegetables have all the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood." HL 98

1898 "In a short time the milk of the cows will also be excluded from the diet of God's commandment-keeping people in a short time it will not be safe to use anything that comes from the animal creation." CD 411

1899 "The light given me is that it will not be very long before we shall have to give up using any animal food. Even milk will have to be discarded." CD 384

1901 "The time may come when it will not be safe to use milk.... The time will come when we may have to discard some of the articles of diet we now use, such as milk and cream and eggs.... The time will come when milk cannot be used as freely as it is now used.... But I wish to say that when the time comes that it is no longer safe to use milk, cream, butter, and eggs, God will reveal this.... We see that cattle are becoming greatly diseased, the earth itself is corrupted, and we know that the time will come when it will not be best to use milk and eggs." CD 357-9

1902 "Let the diet reform be progressive. Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men." 7T135

1903 "Vegetables, fruits, and grains should compose our diet. Not an ounce of flesh meat should enter our stomachs." CD 380

1905 "Cheese is... objectionable; it is wholly unfit for food." MH 302

1905 "Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator.... The grains, with fruits, nuts, and vegetables, contain ALL the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood.... The diet reform should be progressive. As disease in animals increases, the use of milk and eggs will become more and more unsafe... The people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs, so far as possible, and yet have their food wholesome and palatable." MH 296, 316, 320-1

1906 "In grains, fruits, vegetables, and nuts are to be found ALL the food elements that we need." CDF 92, 310, 313

1909 "The time will come when we may have to discard some of the articles of diet we now use, such as milk and cream and eggs..." 9T162


 

"Let the diet reform be progressive. Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men. The time is near when, because of the iniquity of the fallen race, the whole animal creation will groan under the diseases that curse our earth. God will give His people ability and tact to prepare wholesome food without these things. Let our people discard all unwholesome recipes. Let them learn how to live healthfully, teaching to others what they have learned. Let them impart this knowledge as they would Bible instruction. Let them teach the people to preserve the health and increase the strength by avoiding the large amount of cooking that has filled the world with chronic invalids. By precept and example make it plain that the food which God gave Adam in his sinless state is the best for man's use as he seeks to regain that sinless state{CD 460.5}"

 

 

 

...The last few words in the Counsels of Diet and Foods appendix, are those of James White regarding the counsels on health given to his wife: "...all changes in diet should be made carefully, one at a time. And while she [his wife, Ellen White] would say this to those who are in danger of making changes too rapidly, she would also say to the tardy, Be sure and not forget to change."

*Scripture says that you are to “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15).

It is my hope and prayer that you will do just that.

 

QUESTION: Should SDA's Eat/Drink Dairy Products (Cheese, Eggs, Milk, Butter, Cream)???

ANSWER: NO!

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Thanks for your question. When we mention fruits and vegetables people think only of orange, pawpaw, apple and the likes therefore it is better to itemize those specific categories of fruits and vegetable that are classified as such.

I am slowly giving them up and my high blood pressure is coming down, and my blood sugar has dropped and going down hopefully to normal levels, so it does have a immediate effect.

NOT A BAD IDEA TO BE VEGETARIAN, BUT DONT MAKE IT A DOCTRINE, OTHERWISE IT BECOMES A DOCTORINE OF MAN. 

IT IS OBVIOUS YOU BELIEVE THE BIBLE, SO KEEP IN MIND THAT JESUS ATE MEAT, DANIEL ALSO AND GOD'S CHOSEN MEN/WOMEN/LEADERS, INFACT THE THE PASSOVER MANDATES IT AS AN EVERLASTING ORDINANCE FOR THE JEWS.  

PER GENESIS, ABRAHAM FED ANGELS IN HUMAN BODIES MEAT, THEY ATE MEAT, BUTTER ETC, SEE BELOW.  

CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU TRY AN IMPOSE ON OTHERS. JESUS NOT ONLY ENDORSED FISH, BUT MULTIPLIED IT AND BLESSED IT.  

1 CORINTHIANS 8:8  But meat commendeth us not to God, for neither are we the better if we eat, nor are we the worse if we eat not.

GENESIS 18: 7&8  And Abraham ran unto the herd and fetched a calf, tender and good, and gave it unto a young man, and he hastened to dress it.

And he took butter and milk and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they ate.

LUKE 9:13  But He said unto them, “Give ye them to eat.” And they said, “We have no more than five loaves and two fishes, unless we should go and buy meat for all these people.

LUKE 24;41  And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, He said unto them, “Have ye here any meat?”

COLOSSIANS 2:16  Let no man therefore judge you in meat or drink, or in respect to a holy day or the new moon or the Sabbath days,

ROMANS 14:17  for the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.

ROMANS 14:20  Destroy not the work of God for the sake of meat. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for that man to eat what causeth offense.

THE EDEN PLAN AND THE POST EDEN PLAN ARE NOT 100% IDENTICAL.  

True, but check what is being brought out by those in the medical fields, and you see some of it is good advice.

GOOD IS ADVICE IS NOT ALWAYS DOCTRINE.    IT IS GOOD TO WEAR A SEATBELT WHILE DRIVING, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE DOCTRINE.

MATTHEW 15!!

I would tend to agree, there is a element which is extreme which we must also avoid.

You will notice that meat was added to man's diet and was never part of the intended diet as it would require death.

The use of the word "meat" does not always mean flesh, e.g. Rom.14:17 which the Peshitta (Aramaic) translates as: "For The Kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but the righteousness and the peace and the joy in The Spirit of Holiness." All of the NT verses you quote are referring to food not flesh. 

Meat is not necessary for humans and God is specific that there are some animals that are not supposed to be eaten - we ignore the manufacturer's instructions at our peril. As Richard mentions, medical science is catching up with the Bible.

Personally speaking, it was the SDA stance on vegetarianism that caused me to look seriously at Christianity and eventually led to my baptism. SDAs were known to live longer than others due to their health message, even to the extent that some life assurance companies give a reduced rate to SDAs.

It seems that we have not taken the Health message with the strength needed, and now the whole world is embracing "plant based" foods and products.

Richard, in all honesty, it is worse than that. Before becoming a Christian I was a member of the organisation that set up what was referred to as the New Age Movement. From my "insider" knowledge I will just simply say, when we put down the health message as the right arm of the Gospel satan picked it up as the right arm of his message.

We had a precious message that was an entering wedge in to many a heart and a real witness. As soon as we gave it up it was used and promoted by many to draw people to a false gospel. Islam is another prime example where much of our health message was taken into Islam as a part of their false religion.

TRUE.  BUT MANY THINGS CHANGED POST EDEN, DIET OF COURSE WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.  EVEN ANGELS AND JESUS ATE OF MEAT/FLESH, SUCH AS WHEN ABRAHAM'S SERVANT PREPARED A MEAT STEW, JESUS ATE THE PASSOVER WHICH INCLUDES MEAT/FLESH. 

A BALANCED LIFE INCLUDES DIET, WORK, PLAY, REST, WAR, PEACE.  THE GOOD AND THE BAD.

There will be no slaughter house in the new earth".  "They shall not hurt nor destroy in ALL my HOLY MOUNTAIN, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea."Isa. 11:9.

That it's here on this earth we have to learn to stop eat animall flesh. Because in heaven their will be now slaughter house. You will rebel.

 

OK, ON THAT PRINCIPAL, WE NEED TO START LEARNING HOW TO FLY, NOT SLEEP, NOT CRY.  COME ON MAN, ALL THINGS OF THIS WORLD WILL BE LEFT BEHIND AND SO WILL OUR BODIES.  NOTHING OF THIS EARTH AS WE KNOW IT WILL EXTEND INTO THE NEW WORLD.

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