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The Health Message is apart of the 3 Angels Messages. It is the "right arm" of the 3 Angels Message, which is the Everlasting Gospel. The Health Message is particularly connected to the 1st Angels Message, which tells us to "GIVE GLORY TO GOD". We give glory to God by reflecting His character and following His ways.

 

*Revelation 14:6,7---"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."

 

...We give "GLORY TO GOD" by reflecting His character and following His ways. We also give "GLORY TO GOD" in how we look, dress, eat, and drink. 1 Corinthians 10:31 makes this more clear.

 

*1 Corinthians 10:31---"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."

 

...This is how the Health Message is connected to the 3 Angels Message, through the announcement of the 1st Angel, which is to GIVE GOD GLORY. We give God glory in ALL that we do, including "eating & drinking". This is why God gave His last day church the HEALTH MESSAGE. We are told that meat eating should be done away with and that we (SDA's) should NOT eat cheese or other dairy products. Most of us agree on meat-eating. But many of us have not seen the light on eating dairy products (cheese, eggs, milk, butter, cream).

 

The SOP says,

 

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  • Pure Vegetarianism/Veganism

1868 "Cheese should never be introduced into the stomach." 2T 68

1883 "All the elements of nutrition are contained in the fruits, vegetables, and grains." HL 96

1889 "Years ago I had a testimony of reproof for the managers in our campmeetings bringing upon the ground and selling to our people cheese and other hurtful things." CD 329

1890 "The effect of cheese is deleterious." CH 114

1896 "The simple grains, fruits of the trees, and vegetables have all the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood." HL 98

1898 "In a short time the milk of the cows will also be excluded from the diet of God's commandment-keeping people in a short time it will not be safe to use anything that comes from the animal creation." CD 411

1899 "The light given me is that it will not be very long before we shall have to give up using any animal food. Even milk will have to be discarded." CD 384

1901 "The time may come when it will not be safe to use milk.... The time will come when we may have to discard some of the articles of diet we now use, such as milk and cream and eggs.... The time will come when milk cannot be used as freely as it is now used.... But I wish to say that when the time comes that it is no longer safe to use milk, cream, butter, and eggs, God will reveal this.... We see that cattle are becoming greatly diseased, the earth itself is corrupted, and we know that the time will come when it will not be best to use milk and eggs." CD 357-9

1902 "Let the diet reform be progressive. Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men." 7T135

1903 "Vegetables, fruits, and grains should compose our diet. Not an ounce of flesh meat should enter our stomachs." CD 380

1905 "Cheese is... objectionable; it is wholly unfit for food." MH 302

1905 "Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator.... The grains, with fruits, nuts, and vegetables, contain ALL the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood.... The diet reform should be progressive. As disease in animals increases, the use of milk and eggs will become more and more unsafe... The people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs, so far as possible, and yet have their food wholesome and palatable." MH 296, 316, 320-1

1906 "In grains, fruits, vegetables, and nuts are to be found ALL the food elements that we need." CDF 92, 310, 313

1909 "The time will come when we may have to discard some of the articles of diet we now use, such as milk and cream and eggs..." 9T162


 

"Let the diet reform be progressive. Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men. The time is near when, because of the iniquity of the fallen race, the whole animal creation will groan under the diseases that curse our earth. God will give His people ability and tact to prepare wholesome food without these things. Let our people discard all unwholesome recipes. Let them learn how to live healthfully, teaching to others what they have learned. Let them impart this knowledge as they would Bible instruction. Let them teach the people to preserve the health and increase the strength by avoiding the large amount of cooking that has filled the world with chronic invalids. By precept and example make it plain that the food which God gave Adam in his sinless state is the best for man's use as he seeks to regain that sinless state{CD 460.5}"

 

 

 

...The last few words in the Counsels of Diet and Foods appendix, are those of James White regarding the counsels on health given to his wife: "...all changes in diet should be made carefully, one at a time. And while she [his wife, Ellen White] would say this to those who are in danger of making changes too rapidly, she would also say to the tardy, Be sure and not forget to change."

*Scripture says that you are to “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15).

It is my hope and prayer that you will do just that.

 

QUESTION: Should SDA's Eat/Drink Dairy Products (Cheese, Eggs, Milk, Butter, Cream)???

ANSWER: NO!

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Bro Jason and MDJ:

I think is valid any discussion that can clarify points in our faith, but about those points that our church is very clear, its pointless unless you are newer or just baptised, even tough, our church never baptise somebody that cant understand in full our 28 fundamentals beliefs and cant defend and somebody that disagree or divert of it! The people that you can see everywhere attacking diverting and questioning our church just starts doing some time after join the church and been "contaminated " by ideas against our church, but before being baptised everyone is really is according with the church or a least "pretending" do it to get baptised!

Do both you mind if I ask what made both you doubtful after beeing baptised or both you still non-baptised yet?

Blessings!

It is a sin to disregard & disobey the counsel that the Lord has given us.

The bible or SOP never said that eating clean meats is a sin, so why are some 'Christian' saying that eating clean meats is a sin, why are they accusing the brethren? I would ask God to exchange their circumstances with those in the poorer countries to see what would become of their Pure Diet. 

 

Do we think before we speak ? Where did the bible or SOP say that eating eggs, clean meat etc. is a sin ?

 

 

We do not mark out any precise line to be followed in diet; but we do say that in countries where there are fruits, grains, and nuts in abundance, flesh food is not the right food for God's people. I have been instructed that flesh food has a tendency to animalize the nature, to rob men and women of that love and sympathy which they should feel for every one, and to give the lower passions control over the higher powers of the being. If meat eating were ever healthful, it is not safe now. Cancers, tumors, and pulmonary diseases are largely caused by meat eating.  {CD 404.2} 

Jason, you are right: this falses adventist are accusing wrongly our brotherhood, but was God who advise healthy food in the last days and I would like to ask you now, if same God will forsake His people right now? Our time that include our fault , we blame God! Poor people in poor country will not perish if they get close to God and claim His promises ! Whom fear God can expect same God advise eat healthy, will provide the correct one! What your opinion? Why the healthy food doesnt to come to them? God have been failed? He lost His power?

Blessings!

You've already had all the quotes Jason.

 

2 Thes 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.   2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:   2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

But, once again, just for you, SOP says eating meats will promote animal passions and hinder us from obeying God. Apart from them being harmful and poisonous and full of disease and medication, that is.

The Bible tells us that if you know it is right to do something and you refuse, then it is a sin unto you.

In countries where vegan diet is not possible, God does not require it. But, answer me just ONE of the many, many questions that you have boycotted and ignored: Are YOU in a position to live a vegan diet Jason?... and, if yes, are you? .... and if not, why not?

Yes, I know its three questions........

I am speaking not only for  myself here, I am speaking for the poor etc.. So after all Eating clean meats, cheese, eggs etc. is not a sin. I am so happy that you finally realize that eating clean meats, cheese, eggs, etc. is not a sin. Thank you

Sorry but my question still....

Where is the power of God to provide the food (that He advised to eat) to who need it?.... 

Just ourselves can put limits in God to runaway of His guide...

good question, i realize that the Americans are very comfortable, time will tell
Sorry Jason, but you can only speak for yourself.
It is as truly a sin to violate the laws of our being as it is to break the ten commandments. To do either is to break God's laws. Those who transgress the law of God in their physical organism, will be inclined to violate the law of God spoken from Sinai. CD p.17

Lady Eve, this is true, and yet we all need the mercy of God, as some of us have to do back breaking work just to survive and that goes against the laws of our being.  Others have nothing but mouldy bread, and that goes against health.

Therefore, without giving any license to sin, at all, or to abuse their bodies, let them consult God as to what is right in their situation and stay on their knees in prayer until they receive what they ask for.

 

Dee

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