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The Health Message is apart of the 3 Angels Messages. It is the "right arm" of the 3 Angels Message, which is the Everlasting Gospel. The Health Message is particularly connected to the 1st Angels Message, which tells us to "GIVE GLORY TO GOD". We give glory to God by reflecting His character and following His ways.


*Revelation 14:6,7---"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."


...We give "GLORY TO GOD" by reflecting His character and following His ways. We also give "GLORY TO GOD" in how we look, dress, eat, and drink. 1 Corinthians 10:31 makes this more clear.


*1 Corinthians 10:31---"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."


...This is how the Health Message is connected to the 3 Angels Message, through the announcement of the 1st Angel, which is to GIVE GOD GLORY. We give God glory in ALL that we do, including "eating & drinking". This is why God gave His last day church the HEALTH MESSAGE. We are told that meat eating should be done away with and that we (SDA's) should NOT eat cheese or other dairy products. Most of us agree on meat-eating. But many of us have not seen the light on eating dairy products (cheese, eggs, milk, butter, cream).


The SOP says,



  • Pure Vegetarianism/Veganism

1868 "Cheese should never be introduced into the stomach." 2T 68

1883 "All the elements of nutrition are contained in the fruits, vegetables, and grains." HL 96

1889 "Years ago I had a testimony of reproof for the managers in our campmeetings bringing upon the ground and selling to our people cheese and other hurtful things." CD 329

1890 "The effect of cheese is deleterious." CH 114

1896 "The simple grains, fruits of the trees, and vegetables have all the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood." HL 98

1898 "In a short time the milk of the cows will also be excluded from the diet of God's commandment-keeping people in a short time it will not be safe to use anything that comes from the animal creation." CD 411

1899 "The light given me is that it will not be very long before we shall have to give up using any animal food. Even milk will have to be discarded." CD 384

1901 "The time may come when it will not be safe to use milk.... The time will come when we may have to discard some of the articles of diet we now use, such as milk and cream and eggs.... The time will come when milk cannot be used as freely as it is now used.... But I wish to say that when the time comes that it is no longer safe to use milk, cream, butter, and eggs, God will reveal this.... We see that cattle are becoming greatly diseased, the earth itself is corrupted, and we know that the time will come when it will not be best to use milk and eggs." CD 357-9

1902 "Let the diet reform be progressive. Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men." 7T135

1903 "Vegetables, fruits, and grains should compose our diet. Not an ounce of flesh meat should enter our stomachs." CD 380

1905 "Cheese is... objectionable; it is wholly unfit for food." MH 302

1905 "Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator.... The grains, with fruits, nuts, and vegetables, contain ALL the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood.... The diet reform should be progressive. As disease in animals increases, the use of milk and eggs will become more and more unsafe... The people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs, so far as possible, and yet have their food wholesome and palatable." MH 296, 316, 320-1

1906 "In grains, fruits, vegetables, and nuts are to be found ALL the food elements that we need." CDF 92, 310, 313

1909 "The time will come when we may have to discard some of the articles of diet we now use, such as milk and cream and eggs..." 9T162


"Let the diet reform be progressive. Let the people be taught how to prepare food without the use of milk or butter. Tell them that the time will soon come when there will be no safety in using eggs, milk, cream, or butter, because disease in animals is increasing in proportion to the increase of wickedness among men. The time is near when, because of the iniquity of the fallen race, the whole animal creation will groan under the diseases that curse our earth. God will give His people ability and tact to prepare wholesome food without these things. Let our people discard all unwholesome recipes. Let them learn how to live healthfully, teaching to others what they have learned. Let them impart this knowledge as they would Bible instruction. Let them teach the people to preserve the health and increase the strength by avoiding the large amount of cooking that has filled the world with chronic invalids. By precept and example make it plain that the food which God gave Adam in his sinless state is the best for man's use as he seeks to regain that sinless state{CD 460.5}"




...The last few words in the Counsels of Diet and Foods appendix, are those of James White regarding the counsels on health given to his wife: "...all changes in diet should be made carefully, one at a time. And while she [his wife, Ellen White] would say this to those who are in danger of making changes too rapidly, she would also say to the tardy, Be sure and not forget to change."

*Scripture says that you are to “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15).

It is my hope and prayer that you will do just that.


QUESTION: Should SDA's Eat/Drink Dairy Products (Cheese, Eggs, Milk, Butter, Cream)???


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I have quoted Paul exactly, and referred to the Greek words and their meaning, straight from Strong's Concordance and according to other authorities and in regard to the context.

Paul was given the sacred secrets (Greek; Musterion) directly from Jesus Christ for the church, the body of believers in this administration, which was hidden in God since the foundation of the world. 

All nine manifestations of holy spirit are given to every believer when he or she receives holy spirit, the gift of God. These are to benefit the body of Christ, to profit withal.

You have claimed that the miracles that I have seen empowered by God, are supposedly of the Devil. Such conclusions made without foundation, you not being a witness of said events, nor of you having any experience or knowledge in the holy spirit and its manifestations including discerning of spirits.

Said manifestations that delivered people from fire, illness, destruction, injury or death, or that gave healing, instruction, guidance, wisdom, inspiration, warning (as in this case), as well as edification and exhortation, comfort as well as other benefits. 

You and many others ignore the truths I have presented, or even worse object and oppose that which you do not know nor understand.

Paul wrote by revelation most of the New Testament, yet he is ignored, misunderstood or even opposed. Believers are supposed to follow the scriptures written directly to the body of Christ, which is the 7 church epistles of Romans through Thessalonians.

Take heed therefore, as Peter warned;

2 Peter 3:" 15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;  16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

If I speak of truths that have been lost and ignored for close to 2000 years that were given to Paul by revelation, or even one truth thereby, then you shall be in danger of standing in the way of God's will that these truths be revealed. No one has properly addressed my posts regarding the sacred secrets and the manifestations of holy spirit and studied to see if they are so as I represent. I am as one crying in the wilderness, the wilderness of religion, tradition and quenching of the holy spirit.

Well, may you have quoted Paul, but only the parts that appeal to your self-promoting heart? Because that is all you do here promoting your satanically influenced views. 


I previously posted evidence that EGW cotradicted scripture regarding believers not being sealed, but scripture states when we believe we are sealed with that holy spirit of promise. My post is reproduced here;

"Present Truth posted:
"NOT ONE OF US WILL EVER RECEIVE THE SEAL OF GOD WHILE OUR CHARACTERS HAVE ONE SPOT OR STAIN UPON THEM. It is left with us to remedy the defects in our characters, to cleanse the soul temple of every defilement. Then the latter rain will fall upon us as the early rain fell upon the disciples on the Day of Pentecost. {5T 214.2}"
Ephesians 1: " 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED YE WERE SEALED WITH THAT HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."
You directly contradict God's Word which states that after we believe we are sealed with that holy spirit of promise.
Furthermore, in verse 14, referring to the sealing by the holy spirit after believing, which is the earnest; the earnest is the Greek word arrabon;
"earnest = pledge. See 2 Cor.1:22. The gift of the new nature (spirit) is a pledge of God's future gifts in the same kind, thus differing from any ordinary pledge. Compare 1 Peter 1:4." quoted from E.W. Bullinger's Companion Bible notes regarding these verses, which continues in I Peter I:4; (Context 1:3; Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,);
4To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
In other words the gift of holy spirit (referring to the gift of God, not God) which believers are sealed with after they believe are assured of the promise or pledge by God that they have an incorruptible inheritance, undefiled and that fadeth not away, which is eternal life.
Furthermore; 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 states; " 21Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; 22Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts."
Salvation is by faith, not by eating. This doctrine is a doctrine of Devils and is carnal, evil and blasphemy. PERIOD.
I highly suggest you seek God's forgiveness and stop teaching blatant errors that contradict God's Word, and go to your prayer closet and seek God's wisdom and start studying God's Word instead of EGW, who contradicted God's Word also as above.
If any of you want to argue with the Greek language, with the scriptures and with God himself, well you are responsible. If you are merely ignorant, by being deceived and taught error, then you can right the wrongs, and proceed with much study and vexation of spirit and humble yourself."

James said:

Ephesians 1: " 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED YE WERE SEALED WITH THAT HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

But do you really believe seems to me you are so full of yourself that you have no room for Christ? EGW said this about those who think themselves superior to others:

If you would gather together everything that is good and holy and noble and lovely in man, and then present the subject to the angels of God as acting a part in the salvation of the human soul or in merit, the proposition would be rejected as treason. Standing in the presence of their Creator and looking upon the unsurpassed glory which enshrouds His person, they are looking upon the Lamb of God-given from the foundation of the world to a life of humiliation, to be rejected of sinful men, to be despised, to be crucified. Who can measure the infinity of the sacrifice!

James said:

Salvation is by faith, not by eating. This doctrine is a doctrine of Devils and is carnal, evil and blasphemy. PERIOD.

Yep quite true But promoting oneself as superior to others is not Pauls point here and how God looks at you see EGW quote in this post. 

Yes, we should worship God every day..HOWEVER, we cannot worship God the way He specifies for the Sabbath. If we did,  we would have no job, no nothing. He made one day SPECIAL..He made it was the only day He made holy. He made that day to spend with us. No other day was set aside for that HAS TO BE that day..and that day only. Sunday will not cut it..and nor will any other day except the 7th day of the week. If we do not keep the 7th day, we are deliberately breaking His Ten Commandments..which then makes us deliberately living in sin. Jesus said "If you love me, keep my commandments".....Obedience is the only way we can show our love. In 1John it says something like this...."Those that say they love Him yet do not do His commandments are liars, and the truth is not in them."....NO liar will enter heaven. 

Amen Freedom Mr. Sunday keeper seems to think it is of no importance, but as you have outlined it here there is nothing that will excuse keeping Sunday instead of Sabbath. The Sunday was not made holy it was not set aside, and nowhere in the Bible will we find any blessing bestowed on Sunday. Those who think so will come up short and some will wear a mark. 







James said


I worship God 365 days also and there is nothing wrong with that. But when you reject the Sabbath as I have seen you do, God does not approve of those who reject the Sabbath. God said the Sabbath is Blessed by Him and it will sanctify you if you keep it, no other day is set aside like that by God. Anyway, what would you expect from someone who thinks the mark of the beast is a computer chip. And I would not like to be a friend with a pathological liar as we see you do all the time. 

I will not say happy Sabbath as you do not keep it.  


Elijah...I feel you are berating this man and that will just turn him away from even going into the Bible and checking out what we say about the 7th day and no other day will do. We are to sow seeds in love..not hammer them and throw their beliefs in their face like filthy washing. We show them what the Bible says over and over..we cannot force people to accept these truths from scripture...they have freedom to choose. We know that it does not matter how much we do things for God and yet we disobey Him in other things does not end well....BUT others think God will accept the good things and will wipe away the wrong. We should be gentle and just show from the Bible...and if they do not want to check it out, then we move on...that is why I feel that you are berating him over and over and I do not feel that is what we are supposed to do. We are to speak in love and teach in love and from the Bible. If people do not accept what the Bible says then so be it..they have made their choice and if they do not end up in heaven they will know why. I am not trying to put you down brother. Happy Sabbath and may God Bless you abundantly.

We can only show things from the Bible. People will either believe that or not. It is up to them. We just sow the seeds. We can force noone. If we berate anyone they might not want to pay attention to the Bible. If they do not believe the Bible and Godand they miss out on heaven, it will be their choice. We want noone to miss out..but it is up to them.

Freedom In Him:

Thank you for your posts above. Since age 7 I was born again, as I understood Christ had died for me and all mankind potentially. I have a relationship with God notwithstanding opinions of others. I have been researching the Bible and working in many capacities for the Kingdom. I have related my personal testimony as well as stating about research as well as the workings of the holy spirit that I have personally seen and experienced.

There is spiritually only one body of Christ and Jesus is the head of the church, the called out of God.

Some SDA have given me the right hand of fellowship despite doctrinal differences on both sides. The love of God and the holy spirit living in the believer is what sets them apart from unbelievers. I have scriptural reasons why I believe what I do which has also been confirmed by the spirit of God, in me and others.

Elijah has accused me of operating Satanic powers, of being mentally ill etc. 

SDA friends have told me he does not represent the SDA as a good witness. Receiving salvation according to the church epistles is a new covenant, and receiving the gift of God which is the holy spirit (not to be confused with The Father who is sometimes referred to as Holy Spirit), as the gift of holy spirit is the arrabon, the earnest; the pledge that God will keep his promises including eternal life. Salvation cannot be obtained by keeping the law or by any works whatsoever. Eternal rewards are granted by works that God recognizes in this administration of grace.

I have given much technical information in my posts from research by many as well as myself. Majority here ignore my posts, a few ridicule and attack my character, ministry and testimony. I have seen great miracles over the decades which also is not believed.

Scriptures and the sacred secrets given to Paul by Revelation from Jesus directly are ridiculed also. The sacret secrets (Greek; musterion) and the 9 manifestations of holy spirit as practiced in the early church have been lost for the most part, as we have not seen the Book of Acts duplicated. But I and many others have experienced some of the greatness of God’s workings.

I have specialized in research and application of the sacred secrets revealed to Paul and how to tap into the nine manifestations which every born again believer has access to. The word gifts in I Corinthians 12, 13 and 14 were added by the translators as the manifestations come as part of the gift of holy spirit, which is Christ in the believer.

Anyone can look up the research and meanings of the Greek words I have referred to.

We upon believing in Christ receive the holy spirit which includes righteousness, justification, redemption, sanctification (holy spirit sets us apart) and ministry of reconcilliation, as well as many other wonderful things.

I have seen great miracles as well as heard fantastic prophecies by the holy spirit over many decades. I cannot refute the many miracles that have happened in my life as well as attempts by Satan to have me injured or killed.

God saved me countless times. People either believe my testimony or do not. My motive is to teach what has been lost for 2000 years almost from the time of the Book of Acts. But no one hardly seems interested except a very few individuals who shall remain nameless to protect them from ridicule such as from Elijah and others.

Most of Christianity is lacking accurate knowledge, understanding and practice of the sacred secrets and the power of the holy spirit. There is much disinformation and lack of mentors as most Christians have never seen God’s side of the supernatural as demonstrated by The Book of Acts. God has patiently waited for people to rise up in faith and demonstrate God’s love and deliverance by the power of God through the holy spirit.

Please do not refer to the counterfeit Kundalini spirit. Yes, Satan can counterfeit all nine manifestations of holy spirit. But the holy spirit does not over step freedom of will. The believer is always conscious and fully aware, and in control of his body.

Thank you for sharing all of this with me. I cannot say that my present biblical knowledge totally understands or agrees with everything you have said...HOWEVER...I cannot ridicule you etc..and know that you are genuine in what you have experienced and seen and believed and that you have been dedicated in your study. I do want to mention one or two things..but, with your knowledge, I know that you will know this already....keeping God's law does nothing to earn us anything..However, as I have mentioned elsewhere, in 1John it does say that "If we say we know Him yet do not do His commandments, we are liars and the truth is not in us." This means the whole Ten including God's 7th day Sabbath. If we do not keep His TEN commandments and are thus classed as liars by our Creator, we must realize that liars do not and cannot enter heaven.

Satan has a counterfeit for every one of God's teachings. We must be very, very careful and make sure that everything lines up with scripture. Satan also gives us good things and he can work miracles...again we must really be careful. He is very sneaky and makes his work be recognized very, very closely to God's.

I say these things in love and respect. God Bless.


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