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"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while.The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction." Rev. 17:9-11


That woman is a symbol of the Church that sits on the Seven Hills of Rome (Italian: Sette colli di Roma) east of the river Tiber form the geographical heart of Rome, within the walls of the ancient city.

The seven hills are:

The Seven kings represents the Popes in Rome from



Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.



The 7 Kings of the Beast that "Yet Is"
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8.


Pius XI Pius XII John XXIII Paul VI John Paul I John Paul II Benedict XVI Satan
1922 - 1939 1939 - 1958 1958 - 1963 1963 - 1978 1978 1978 - 2005 April 19, 2005 ?
Lateran Treaty
       Reigned only 33 days Seriously Wounded
Rules only a short time Impersonates Christ's 2nd Coming
Five are fallen One is One
yet to come
Goes into perdition


Some say that the Eight Pope would be Pope John Paul II, why?


Which of the seven popes will be impersonated by a devil from the abussos?

From the study of Revelation 13 & 17, we can conclude only one who constitutes the best personality for achieving Satan's end-time agenda: it is John Paul II the Great. Below are the reasons:

  1. Out of the seven kings, he is the only one that fulfills the prophesied statement: "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." Revelation 13:3. John Paul II is the only king of the seven who experienced a deadly wound in 1981, when he was nearly assassinated. Thereafter, the whole world, as prophesied, wondered after him.
  2. Remember the divine hint: "five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come." Revelation 17:10. When Apostle John was taken in a vision to the future, he was taken to the time of the reign of the sixth king (John Paul II).
  3. Now the most important reason: Which of the 7 kings is most known, loved and respected in today's generation? If Satan would want to lead the world into imposing universal laws for exalting his false Sabbath (Sunday), who would be the most effective personality other than John Paul II? Who would be more effective than him who called on Christians to "ensure that civil legislation respects their duty to keep Sunday holy…refraining from work and activities which are incompatible with the sanctification of the Lord's Day." [Apostolic Letter, Des Domini of John Paul II, dated May 31, 1998]? Again, no one is better suited for carrying the agenda of Satan than John Paul II. Hence, impersonating him makes the most sense for Satan, who is intent on deceiving the whole world.
How will the impersonation of John Paul II change the world as we know it today, and impact the eternal destiny of everyone alive?

The Bible prophesies that there will be most dramatic and eventful changes in the world once the Catholic Church regains her beast status, when she comes out of her wilderness experience with the next pope, the eighth king. Below is given a list of the most prominent changes that will take place, as foretold by our loving heavenly Father in His Word:

  1. Satan will use the papacy (the beast power) and the USA to impose universal religious laws to exalt Sunday, the violation of which will deprive citizens of their basic rights of buying and selling: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16, 17.
  2. God's people, who will persist in refusing to honor the beast and accept the false Sabbath, will be persecuted and killed: "The image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." Revelation 13:15.

u.s. congressional medal awarded to pope john paul ii in 2000 8th king - john paul ii new york post





There are more explanations for those lines in Revelation 17:9-11, I only cited one of them.




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I hope this post is not transgressing the Terms and Conditions of our Network. I really need answers for this. Please don't take me out from this Network if I'm not able to follow the rules. I have not really read the whole of the Terms and Conditions. Please forgive me. I'm just a new member of your family.

My friend, you may want to have a bible study with someone who has been in the faith for a while. Perhaps a pastor or elder from your church on prophecy. Read the materials that others have posted here and please, study study study.  Also, if you are studying anything from worlds last chance, I urge you to stop. These people are not correct in a lot of their biblical understanding, especially in regards to the sabbath (and from the looks of it prophecy as well). May I suggest that you read some of the work done by our pioneers such ass Uriah smith, JN Andrews and Ellen White? Two books that I recommend are "The Great Controversy" and "Danial and the Revelation".


Unfortunately, I don't have time to go into a full reply right now. However, let me suggest something to help you on your way...


From the information that you have been provided with you are being asked to accept a premise without being given a proper foundation. Example being that in the first point mentioned about John Paul II being the only pope to have received a deadly wound. The author is equating a "beast" in prophecy with a person. But that is not what a beast represents. A beast represents a power (cf.Rev.13) not a person. So, in Rev.13:3 we are told (according to the author of this study) that it is not the papacy that receives a deadly wound in 1798, but rather it is John Paul II in 1981. Alarmingly though, the popes are then counted from Pope Pius XII, the one who signed the concordat with Italy that retored the Papacy and "healed" the deadly wound.


It seems that the author is intending to say that the fulfillment of Rev.13:3 both is and is not the seizure and restoration of the Papal lands. This is the first fatal flaw that jumps to my mind.


Point 2 is "proven" using circular reasoning. Why does the author say that John was taken forward to the time of John Paul II? Simply because that is the person that s/he has already identified and so now forces it to fit. The question, How do you know that John was shown John Paul II's time, is presumably answered with, Because he received a deadly wound. If one then asks, How do you know that John was referring to John Paul II, the reply will be Because that is the time that John was taken to. I hope you get the point. I would want to see independent "witnesses".


Do not accept anything without testing it first.

Just another couple of points...


1. "IT MAKES THE TIME LESSER HAN EXPECTED!" - what time are you expecting? The SDA church has, through its history, been proclaiming that the end is near ever since Jesus entered the Most Holy Place. At some point everything will wind up. There are still some major prophecies to be fulfilled but on the basis that, as EGW say, "the final movements will be rapid ones" we will probably be surprised at how fast things will happen. However, when we focus on a specific time or period when Christ will return it is often done to the expense of making ourselves ready NOW. There are no guarantees in life. We may say that every morning the sun will rise but I cannot guarantee that every morning *I* will rise. Rather than focussing on a future which we have no guarantee of seeing we should make our calling and election sure right now, every minute. That is real preparation.


2. This comes from "World's Last Chance" - a group that has embraced many errors, e.g. holy names, lunar sabbath. So don't expect that the theology is going to be logical or even in line with the Bible. Study to show thyself approved.



This post is "GUESSWORK" at best.


We are told that we should not be trying to play the guessing game when it comes to the Scriptures, prophecy, or the plan of salvation.

"Has not God been speaking early and late for years, and you have not heard and obeyed His voice? With every one connected with the office the efficiency for good is derived from Christ Jesus; the saving power of grace is not guess work; {1888 1302.1}

"He (we) has (have) a chart pointing out every waymark on the heavenward journey, and he (we) ought not to guess at anything. {GC 598.1}

...This is no time for guesswork or the guessing game. We are in a time that we should be walking in ALL THE LIGHT that has already been revealed to us so that we can receive GREATER LIGHT.

The test is coming between Feb 28 & end of March. We will have a new pope. Will it be a personification of John Paul II? I think there will definitely be some disapointment. The prophecy of 7 popes will require a relook - in fact -------  an abandonment.


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