something else to read about!!
blessings brothers and sisters!!
Thanks Victor, excellent pdf!
I didn't see this post and it until now, and downloaded it for reference.
Truth is Truth no matter who doesn't believe it. Error is Error no matter how many billions believe it.
It's been quite a while since I posted last...just thought I would see what progress in Jesus we are making...
I see confusion of the Person of the Holy Spirit... true, the term "trinity" is not a Hebrew word, and thus we should not use this term to describe "Elohiym" which we commonly translate as "God" whatever that word means, but in the NT the term "Elohiym" is broken down into three functional descriptors, using another word never used in the OT. Hence the confusion in the former rains of Scriptures and the different presentation in the latter rain of Scriptures as the NT writes:
It is as James says regarding the "mystery"....
Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God (elohiym) , who created all things by Jesus Christ:
In this verse we have the term "elohiym". I do not use Greek words in the NT but Hebrew terms, to line up the former and later rains of teachings which correct consistent harmony. The Greek is a translation of the Hebrew anyway.
Notice it says elohiym created all things via Jesus.
Eph 3:14 ¶ For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
This verse breaks down the mystery into three functional descriptors of Elohiym, namely Father, Son-Jesus and Holy Spirit. And this is a simile of the NT term "family".
A earthly family consists of Dad, Mum and children.
The heavenly elohiym consists of Father, Mother and Son-Jesus.
Remember in the Genesis account, elohiym created mankind in the image of elohiym, gender male and gender female. We know from Jesus statements that procreation genes are switched off in heaven, so what makes this Being called mankind, into two persons?
There are two Hebrew word for love, not one as we assume, so elohiym is showing mankind, the Being, that a Being is composed of two functional ways of loving, the maleness love person (Ahab) and the femaleness love kind (Ahabuh). Thus mankind consists of two personalities of love, and these are separate persons.
The Hebrew term father means (ab) the strong home, meaning the strong one in the home.
The Hebrew term mother means (am) the strong flow in the home. These are functional action words describing love working in a family.
The Hebrew word for Jesus is both (bn) the home across the nations, thus Jesus continues the love flowing over the nations, as a redeemer of those wanting to be His children in a divine family, and Jesus is also termed (br) the home head, where Jesus is the head of a new family, and hence a king of a kingdom, the redeemed....
Many of the comments I read seem confused over the term "medium" or "agency", the Holy Spirit channels the Father's flow, or the Son's flow, so we have "His flow", but if you wish to find the Holy Spirit acting on it's own, you find the Person is a "her", otherwise in a community setting which elohiym is, the maleness takes precedence over the femaleness. I will stop here for one cannot change one's world view, without God doing it for you, and more blessed are showers, rather than floods.