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Yes Redva Womans Ordination fist and next we will have same sex marriage, all churches that has gone down this path has done this. 

They did WOPE first, and then came the rest as rebellion begets rebellion.

As it does Heisenberg as surely as night follows day. 

This church was one of the great protestant churches that took a stand for the Bible.  Now, are they even relevant?  Do they have a message for our age?   If they do, it is what not to do.  In order to be relevant for our time is not to stand with the world and do as the world, but stand firm on what the Bible teaches.    

It's as if no one can see the big picture or the wide scope of things.  The book of Revelations and  little history teaches us how churches fail.   If the great protestant churches are weak and failing and it appears the SDA church is going the way of the world (I do not believe it will ) what does this tell us.  

Raymond 

I see it the same way, one do wonders how far the church can go down the way of the world. As you say EGW says the church will stand at the moment it looks doubtful. So very soon the church needs to get rid of all her worldly ways and the humanism that seems to have taken hold, I believe. 

When talking to people I do not think they understand history.  They do not care or find it boring or not relevant to them, but if you think of it from God's point of view it was just yesterday.  I did not realize that, for instance, that some people from 150 years ago had some of the same teachings as we do.  While doing genealogy I read an obituary of a Quaker Women talking about death and resurrection.  It was clear that she or the writer of the obit believed that the soul slept until Christ called them out of the grave.  Most protestant people had a clear view of the Catholic church until recent times.  Now the pope is treated like a rock star even among nonbelievers. A Jesuit even. 

 if our church studied the 6 verses that  most say condems homosexual acts as we study the state of the dead in our own heritage -

our church might come up with a  very different understanding

 the state of the dead was so cut and dry for hundreds of years

.....till a group actually looked actually looked closer

:)

hmmmm...

GBU All here!

Do you want to be made straight? 

Do you want to be made straight? 

...................

Jason M.

GBU

are u asking for a reason?

read my latest thread

it will answer more deeply from my past regarding that very thing

but now?

to be made straight?

to make u happy?

at this late stage in my life?

to what end?

to get married?

so people will be more comfortable?

(that is what drives many to picket gays)

to have lil MFG's running around?

or ....

to show everyone the Power of GOD?

well amen to that

(CELIBACY DOES THAT BTW ..like that's not Enough??????????????)

but i must say something that hopefully u know by experince

a Changed Heart to GOD and Others and Myself and to Desire HIM face to face and in turn extend forgiveness to all

is the POWER of GOD!

being straight is not the answer my Brother

JESUS IS!

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Do you want to be made straight? 

...................

Jason M.

GBU

are u asking for a reason?

read my latest thread

it will answer more deeply from my past regarding that very thing

but now?

to be made straight?

to make u happy?

at this late stage in my life?

to what end?

to get married?

so people will be more comfortable?

(that is what drives many to picket gays)

to have lil MFG's running around?

or ....

to show everyone the Power of GOD?

well amen to that

(CELIBACY DOES THAT BTW ..like that's not Enough??????????????)

but i must say something that hopefully u know by experince

a Changed Heart to GOD and Others and Myself and to Desire HIM face to face and in turn extend forgiveness to all

is the POWER of GOD!

being straight is not the answer my Brother

JESUS IS!

Jason i want you to know something that you may not know as a young Christians man

St. Paul says  "whatever state i am there by be content"

it is maddening  to not love the skin your in

so therefore i am Gay to be Gay

Don't ever make the mistake of comparing being black with being a homosexual. Can't you see the difference? 

Does God have the power to make you straight? 

Don't ever make the mistake of comparing being black with being a homosexual. Can't you see the difference? 

Does God have the power to make you straight? 

.............

uhhh Jason M.

when i said skin i wasn't talking about skin colour at all

sorry for the unfortunate miscommunication on my part

coining a phrase that is common that runs deeper to my understanding of acceptance of one self

answering your question directly

'it is maddening  to not love the skin your in' -mfg

my bad

 GBU

(by the way u don't know the colour of my skin or ethnicity)

.....

Does God have the power to make you straight? -Jason M.

you would think when i share God's Gift and Power of celibacy you would chime in?

with Praise and God's own beauty in your own life as a single christian

but nahhhh

u have to hammer for some reason

like God's precious gift is not good enough?

#hoping i would become straight so we can double date?

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