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Russell Holt, in a term paper written for a course at Andrews University, for professor Mervyn Maxwell, has done a study on the development of the Trinity doctrine in the Seventh Day Adventist Church and how it became a doctrine. He looks at it from a positive viewpoint; in other words, he thinks it was good that the change took place. He wrote down some things I’d like to quote. On page 4 of his study, he writes:

"A survey of other writers during these years reveal that to a man they rejected the trinity."

This says that when you look through the writings of the early Adventists, every single one of them rejected the trinity. There was not a single one of them who believed in the trinity. Although many of the articles you read today will say that most of them rejected the trinity, that's not true. Every single one of them rejected the trinity! You won’t be able to find one of those early Adventists who supported this doctrine as long as they were members of the Church.

D.N. Canright rejected the trinity as long as he was an Adventist but, after he apostatized and left the Church, he wrote a book against Adventism and that was when he accepted the trinity - which fact, is probably more significant than we think.

Russell Holt goes on to speak about James White. He says:

"The evidence from his (James White's) pen seems to indicate that from his first spiritual affiliations with the "Christian Connection", until his death at the age of 60, James White opposed the Trinity both on the basis of logic and scripture, while holding a definite concept of the exalted position and divinity of Jesus Christ. The conclusion reached is intriguing due to his unique and special relationship to the Lord's messenger, who happened to be his wife. She was surely aware of his thinking on this subject. Did she approve? If not, why did he continue in his belief? Did she simply refrain from correcting him? Why? "The questions raised are fascinating, but not easily answered. At least James White, himself, can be demonstrated to have been a consistent anti-trinitarian."

Fascinating indeed! James White died in 1881, after having been married to Ellen White for about 35 years. The lady that he worked with, ate with, slept with, studied with, went around with giving sermons and messages, who was the prophet - the messenger of God, and supposedly her husband was teaching a false doctrine?? (It can be demonstrated that James White came out many times and spoke against the trinitarian concept, calling it a Catholic doctrine - yet this woman who was a prophet of God and his own wife, never said to him, "James, you're wrong on this matter"? Not even ONCE?).

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Thank goodness we base our beliefs on the Bible instead of the founders.

Amen

Mr. Montano,

"...the power of the priest is the power of the divine person; for the transubstantiation of the bread requires as much power as the creation of the world. ...thus the priest may be called the creator of the Creator..." -The dignity of the priesthood by Liguori, p. 33

 "If anyone says that in the holy sacrament of the Eucharist (communion wafer), Christ, the only begotten Son of God, is not to be adored with the worship of latria, also outwardly manifested, and is consequently neither to be venerated with a special festive solemnity, nor to be solemnly borne about in procession according to the laudable and universal rite and custom of the holy Church, or it not to be set publicly before the people to be adored and the adorers thereof are idolaters, let him be anathema." Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent. Original text with English translation, by Rev. H.J. Schroeder, O.P., B. Herder Book Co. 1960, Canon 6

This would seem far more problematic.

Original statement 

SIGNS OF THE TIMES, September 27, 1899

We need to pray for the impartation of the divine Spirit as the remedy for sin-sick souls. The surface truths of revelation, made plain and easy to be understood, are accepted by many as supplying all that is essential; but the Holy Spirit, working upon the mind, awakens an earnest desire for truth uncorrupted by error. He who is really desirous to know what is truth can not remain in ignorance; for precious truth rewards the diligent seeker. We need to feel the converting power of God's grace, and I urge all who have closed their heart against God's Spirit to unlock the door, and plead earnestly, Abide with me. Why should we not prostrate ourselves at the throne of divine grace, praying that God's Spirit may be poured out upon us as it was upon the disciples? Its presence will soften our hard hearts, and fill us with joy and rejoicing, transforming us into channels of blessing. 

The Lord would have every one of His children rich in faith, and this faith is the fruit of the working of the Holy Spirit upon the mind. It dwells with each soul who will receive it, speaking to the impenitent in words of warning, and pointing them to Jesus, the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. It causes light to shine into the minds of those who are seeking to co-operate with God, giving them efficiency and wisdom to do His work. 

Reprinted statement 

YE SHALL RECEIVE POWER (published 1996) P.59

We need to pray for the impartation of the divine Spirit as the remedy for sin-sick souls. The surface truths of revelation, made plain and easy to be understood, are accepted by many as supplying all that is essential; but the Holy Spirit, working upon the mind, awakens an earnest desire for truth uncorrupted by error. He who is really desirous to know what is truth cannot remain in ignorance; for precious truth rewards the diligent seeker. We need to feel the converting power of God's grace, and I urge all who have closed their heart against God's Spirit to unlock the door, and plead earnestly, Abide with me. Why should we not prostrate ourselves at the throne of divine grace, praying that God's Spirit may be poured out upon us as He was upon the disciples? His presence will soften our hard hearts, and fill us with joy and rejoicing, transforming us into channels of blessing.

The Lord would have every one of His children rich in faith, and this faith is the fruit of the working of the Holy Spirit upon the mind. He dwells with each soul who will receive Him, speaking to the impenitent in words of warning, and pointing them to Jesus, the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. He causes light to shine into the minds of those who are seeking to cooperate with God, giving them efficiency and wisdom to do His work.

Does he mean the same as it? Why was this changed / edited?

Herbert I have a friend called John and have emailed him over 20 times and we battle the Hypothesis that Jesus did not have pre-existence....He does not believe in trinity....

Every example of Jesus pre-existence He denies using solar Scriptoria, and does it well....so one wonders how many other XSDA people are going to be like John, and walk away from EGW and the Bible teachings on Elohim as singularity but expressing plurality.

Mostly scholars and most religions do not see Elohim as plurality of members but plural of majesty, which is a strange way to summarize the functional descriptors of Elohim...

I explain it this way, what is light ?

Light is singularity but also expresses duality. This means light has two way of expressing itself, one form is a particle form the other is a wave form, both forms exist simultaneously at the same time , unless the light meets an object, than the wave form only is bounced off that object.

Light also has plurality. For example red and yellow colours, radio waves, gamma rays and so forth as all forms of light, in science we term this the electromagnetic spectrum, which is a fancy term to describe light in it's various forms.

We could form example say that gamma light is very different to red light which is very different to radio wave light....we might be even tempted to say that these types of light are different uniquely, perhaps as individual as persons are....but collectively it is still light....they have all the properties of light....

1Jo 1:5 ¶ .... that God is light, ....

We do a disservice trying to place GOD into a world like ours in experience....All I see is Satan saw GOD as singularity expressing plurality and made the trinity of three gods into a pagan model, so to rattle the faith of nations later...

I see our pioneers were stuck in a biased culture of not wanting to read their Bibles in the Hebrew, and thus missed the truth in it... simply put I agree with Shannon....

Shalom

I do too.

Leon

Leon

Throwing Dirt at the Whites again. Because you feel very smug in your faith do you not?

No dirt just the truth.

Leon

Yes and you did take great pleasure out of doing that too.

No just and obligation to help my people move in the right direction.
Leon

Leon

The direction is a matter of opinion. I hear an sour note in your trumpet. 

Yes you do Ian

But, as sour as I am God loves me and you too.

Leon

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