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What do you think about Liberal Christianity or Liberal adventist ..Is there such thing as a liberal seventh day adventist ??


In my Christian journey i have encountered many different individuals, lately i have been communicating with a former adventist pastor he considers himself a liberal seventh day adventist.. He believes that he can go against the law of God, live a life of sin and God will understand..

The last time we spoke he said that there he sees nothing sinful or wrong it fornication.. He said God do understands that sexual intercourse is something that he needs as a individual, so if he performs the act out of wedlock God will understand..


My question here for you is, Is liberalism acceptable in the adventist Church? 


I had to do some reading on this subject this are some of the definition i found for liberal Christianity 


Liberal Christianity, sometimes called liberal theology, is an umbrella term covering diverse, philosophically and biblically informed religious movements and ideas within Christianity from the late 18th century and onward. The word "liberal" in liberal Christianity does not refer to a progressive political agenda or set of beliefs, but rather to the manner of thought and belief associated with the philosophical and religious paradigms developed during the Age of Enlightenment.

Liberal Christianity, broadly speaking, is a method of biblical hermeneutics, an undogmatic method of understanding God through the use of scripture by applying the same modern hermeneutics used to understand any ancient writings. Liberal Christianity does not claim to be a belief structure, and as such is not dependent upon any Church dogma or creedal statements. Unlike conservative varieties of Christianity, it has no unified set of propositional beliefs. The word liberal in liberal Christianity denotes a characteristic willingness to interpret scripture without any preconceived notion of inerrancy of scripture or the correctness of Church dogma.[1] A liberal Christian, however, may hold certain beliefs in common with traditional, orthodox, or even conservative Christianity.

The theology of liberal Christianity was prominent in the Biblical criticism of the 19th and 20th centuries. The style of Scriptural hermeneutics(interpretation of the Bible) within liberal theology is often characterized as non-propositional. This means that the Bible is not considered a collection of factual statements, but instead an anthology that documents the human authors' beliefs and feelings about God at the time of its writing—within a historical or cultural context. Thus, liberal Christian theologians do not claim to discover truth propositions but rather create religious models and concepts that reflect the class, gender, social, and political contexts from which they emerge. Liberal Christianity looks upon the Bible as a collection of narratives that explain, epitomize, or symbolize the essence and significance of Christian understanding.[2] Thus, liberal Christians do not regard the Bible as divinely inspired (God's Word), but subject Scripture to human reason.

In the 19th century, self-identified liberal Christians sought to elevate Jesus' humane teachings as a standard for a world civilization freed from cultic traditions and traces of "pagan" belief in the supernatural.[3] As a result, liberal Christians placed less emphasis on miraculous events associated with the life of Jesus than on his teachings. The effort to remove "superstitious" elements from Christian faith dates to intellectual reformist Christians such asErasmus and the Deists in the 15th–17th centuries.[4] The debate over whether a belief in miracles was mere superstition or essential to accepting thedivinity of Christ constituted a crisis within the 19th-century church, for which theological compromises were sought.



I would be happy to hear you thoughts on this issue be blessed 


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Sir james



This former pastor... is just trying to create a God that will accept his mess... I do not think that the God we serve, accepts such... He is the God who will tell you, get up leave this sinful life, and come follow me...

Look.. my blood is sufficient for you, accept it and you will be pardon, but, after all this, he will tell you to Go and sin no more... 



John  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


my i cannot help but shout your name sometimes..

John, I do remember telling you it's not what you say it's how you say it.  Flash back to the Lunar thread.  Be prayerful and careful; and search to see that you are showing ALL the fruits of the Spirit.  


Happy Sabbath, Pastor!

ALEX !!!!!!!!!!!! 


this time it is in bold print Alex lol 

Comments like :


"He loves to judge everyone and act like he's important."


Have no place on this forum and are contrary to the rules.



I am speaking for myself when i say i will not dance in the house of the LORD.. yes, it is expression, but, i can express how i feel in the house of the lord... by singing some old hymns as loud as i want to ... then again they might put me out, because, i do not have the gift of singing.. lol 


But indeed we have all eternity to sing and dance and clap and shout..


What I lack down here i will be blessed with, in heaven... we all will be able to sing ... this is what i am looking forward to.... when the saints will blend their voices in song before the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world... 




John ..


There are many things that we do in during our daily activities though they are not wrong , it is not acceptable in church... Should i start jumping and jogging in church, even though i do it during the week? I think not.


Sigh.... I am done..

AMen Emmy...



But i have seen alot in my limited years


Growing up i have seen many things happen in churches not only the adventist church but other churches and they call it worshiping God.


(Using my Slang).. "i have seen people, whine and grine and girate, and jump up, roll on the ground.. and plenty, plenty moh'  all this done in the name of praising God


If one says after such activities that they are ready to receive a sermon, then i am at liberty to say that this person is wrong ...


just saying 

off to worship 




lol ... isn't  it dancing?  hahahha lol ... don't answer that lol 



I am curious .. after such heated conversations on here.. after expressing and defending your opinion so passionately... How do you feel after this, how do you end your day, do you fill good after doing such?


Do you feel that you have accomplish much ? 


i am just curious.. you can tell me publicly or via a message... 


Do not treat me like Alice.. i do not want to be in wonderland .. I just need to know, how u feel at the end of all this discussion that you participate in.. where you are greatly opposed most times..


blessings lol 

I repeat this is not a rhetorical question.. lol 

Ok you leave me as ALICE


blessings lol 


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