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Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.

“Great Commission Council” findings of the dreams of Ernie Knoll


Wednesday, October 01, 2008



Greetings in the name of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ.



With this document we want to share the united opinion of many who have studied and compared the dreams of Ernie Knoll against the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. However, a little background on who we are and the process is in order.



Our small weekly study group first heard of Ernie Knoll and his dreams on May 16 2007. One of the brothers in our study group brought the dream he had called Go Forth! and shared it that evening. After reading and discussing the dream we had a long season of prayer. The following week we met and it was decided that we should begin reading and study all of the dreams brother Knoll had had. We decided to compare them as we have been instructed, "to the Law and to the Testimony." It was decided that we needed to compare these messages to the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. It was also decided as we studied to keep our findings to our self as to not promote a fore or against decision. As time went and additional dreams came we decided to broaden our group study. Invitations were sent out to 'select' individuals to participate in an in depth study of the dreams. The stipulation was set forth that the invited individual would remain anonymous along with the rest of the established group and that their name would never be shared. As the group grew the group moved to an email discussion in a closed online forum. The men in this now large study group are made up of the following individuals. Active and retired pastors from the General Conference. Select leaders from different Unions. Active and retired pastors from select Seventh-Day Adventist churches. Active and retired teachers and professors from different academies, colleges and universities. Literature evangelists. Attorneys from private as well as firm based. Select ardent students of the Bible. It was this large group that we began an ardent and exhaustive study of the dreams of Brother Ernie Knoll.





Following the example given from Spirit of Prophecy shown below we began. We know that we had to follow the council from God given to Ellen White. "First submitting it to brethren of experience. Lay it before them in a humble, teachable spirit, with earnest prayer; and if they see no light in it, yield to their judgment; for "in the multitude of counselors there is safety."--Testimonies, Vol. 5, pp. 291-293"



In taking direction from Spirit of Prophecy on reorganization at the beginning of Solomon's reign.



In planning for the administration of the affairs of the kingdom, after David abdicated in favor of Solomon, the aged king and his son and their counselors regarded it as essential that everything be done with regularity, propriety, fidelity, and dispatch. So far as possible, they followed the system of organization given Israel soon after the deliverance from Egypt. The Levites were assigned the work connected with the temple service, including the ministry of song and instrumental music, and the keeping of the treasures. {RH, October 12, 1905 par. 3}



The men capable of bearing arms and of serving the king were divided into twelve courses of twenty-four thousand each. Over every course was a captain. "The general of the king's army was Joab." "The courses . . . came in and went out month by month throughout all the months of the year." Thus every group of twenty-four thousand served the king one month during each year. {RH, October 12, 1905 par. 4}



David appointed Jonathan, his uncle, as "a counselor, a wise man, and a scribe;" Ahithophel also was "the king's counselor. . . . And after Ahithophel was Johoiada . . . and Abiathar." Hushai was "the king's friend." By his prudent example, the aged king taught Solomon that "in the multitude of counselors there is safety." {RH, October 12, 1905 par. 5}



The thoroughness and completeness of the organization perfected at the beginning of Solomon's reign; the comprehensiveness of the plans for bringing the largest number possible of all the people into active service; the wide distribution of responsibility, so that the service of God and of the king should not be unduly burdensome to any individual or class,--these are lessons which all may study with profit, and which the leaders of the Christian church should understand and follow. {RH, October 12, 1905 par. 6}



This picture of a great and mighty nation living in simplicity and comfort in rural homes, every person rendering willing and unsalaried service to God and the king for a portion of each year, is one from which we may gather many helpful suggestions. {RH, October 12, 1905 par. 7}



We set forth to either prove or disprove these messages. They were either from God or from Satan. It was decided early on that we would not rush forward with our findings. We have seen many others who have done this and we as a group will address these as well.



The other item which was decided was the testimony of a prostitute by the name of Candace which is found on Brother Knoll's Web site. The testimony is located at this address http://www.4hispeople.com/divineinterventionspg2.html. It was decided to prove her as real or made up. It was decided that a private investigator would be hired. We gave the investigator a copy of the testimony and a little information we had gathered to begin his research. In July of 2008 he was successful at locating her. It was then decided that three pastors would visit her. It was also decided to make the visit unplanned. In August of 2008 three pastors arrived at her location. One of the visiting pastors stated "when the young lady opened the door to our shock and surprise she looked at each of us and called us each by our name." She explained that her angel had told her not only the exact day but also the hour the three pastors would arrive but also the names and what the three pastors would look like. The three pastors conducted a long interview. At the end one requested to see the Bible and the book Great Controversy she was given at the shopping center when the angel dropped her off. He also requested to see the book Creeping Compromise which the angel hand delivered to her later. It was reported that all three pastors were overcome with emotions and they all fell to their knees in supplication for God's goodness. At the end of the meeting Candace requested that the three pastors never disclose where she lives nor her real name. On behalf of the group that sent the three pastors a request was made that she not disclose the names of the three pastors.



As a study group we have read and discussed the negative comments that have been made. We wish to briefly discuss a few of these in this document.



We found it interesting that no tangible decision had been made as to the origin of the messages Brother Knoll had been receiving till the February 5 dream called Stand Fast. The first comment was made regarding the execution of many till Revelation 20:4 was discussed. Things quickly escalated when the statement of the tithe was made. A quick decision was reached by Pastor Steve Wohlberg who is the director of White Horse Media and G. Edward Reid who is the Stewardship Director for the NAD. Both of these individuals rushed comments to discredit Brother Knoll. Brother Wohlberg quickly denounced the messenger who speaks with brother Knoll and stated the messenger was of Satan. We are cautioned against this in both the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. Not long after this comment Brother Wohlberg states that 1st John 4 1-3 is not a valid test. The entire study group had a problem with this comment from brother Wolhberg. Another item was the fact that he denies that Jesus came in the flesh as Adam after sin without the propensity to sin. This setup another red flag to the study group as to the validity of his thinking. When we studied in the April 12, 2008 dream titled Love and Rebuke, we quickly realized that this was addressing Steve Wolhberg and White Horse Media.



"Let he that rides dismount and prostrate before the Lord of hosts, the Creator of the universe, He who came to be the created. Bow before your Master and confess your sins so all will hear of your rebellion. A message was sent to a chosen messenger and you denied your Lord's ear and convinced others to turn away. Repent now and ask for forgiveness so the Father will hear and turn His face toward you. Ask this through and in the name of His Son. Kneel, confess your sins lest the streams and rivers dry up and the horse that drinks die, lest you walk the face of the earth and every ear turn away from you as the words you speak fall like rocks from your mouth. Repent lest the Lord God spew you out of His mouth as boiling seawater."



Now we see on the White Horse Media web site a plea for emergency funds. God is fulfilling His rebuke. It appears that brother Wohlberg's ministry is dying. You can find his plea for emergency funding at this link. http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/about/newsletters/details.cfm?news=29



As for Brother Reid, it is obvious why many of this group wish to remain un-named. Many are still receiving financial support but we ask for how much longer. Brother Reid's comments he made regarding brother Knoll was unprepared. It was a quick release to discredit brother Knoll and no study was given. After a thorough in depth study of what the messenger told brother Knoll, we have found that the message is in complete agreement with the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. The other item which needs to be addressed is the usage of the story of the widow and her few mites. This is not the illustration Jesus was giving that she gave all she had to a corrupt storehouse but that she was faithful in paying a tithe. This is what brother Knoll was shown. It is important to pay a tithe but that the payer will be held accountable if the payer knows the tithe is being used against God's will. This is in agreement with Spirit of Prophecy. As we studied further in to Gods storehouse it is shown that Sister White specifically stated that the conference is not to be the only storehouse. So the question came as to where should tithe be sent. The answer was simple. To those who are doing the work of God. How would one know if they are doing the work of God? We are told by their fruits you shall know them. Some have stated that it is wrong that brother Knoll is accepting tithe but then again it is also realized that the fruit of his ministry has brought more souls back to God then many churches through a course of many evangelistic series. We have found that so many are blinded by wrong leadership that wrong decisions are being made by individuals. One final note is the group discussed how it was announced recently a conference placed the entire retirement fund for pastors in a stock and then lost all of the funds. If you the reader are hearing of pastoral layoffs and or how pastors will be now having several churches in their district this is a contribution to the misuse of Gods money. The comment is stated that tithe is at an all time low. It is also at an all time high that the tithe is being misused by the one who holds the keys. United are we in watching to see the keys knocked from brother Reid's hand. Ed this plea also comes from your co-workers. Choose you this day our brother. How long oh Lord must we watch till your church be cleansed! It was also discussed how Brother Reid contacted the churches via the NAD to not allow Brother Knoll to speak in any of our churches. We discussed who these churches belong to. We have always believed they belonged to God. We invite pastors to re-think whom you report to.



An individual named Eugene Prewitt performed a study and discredited brother Knoll. We will not take time to go over his many comments as others have already done this on other web sites. A few of the web site that go over brother Prewitt's comments is www.pinkoski.com and www.4hispeople.info.



Linda Kirk shared a testimony regarding brother and sister Knoll. The open letter she shared was not against the message but against the messenger. We found it interesting that her letter made the Adventist email rounds but the response he made did not. We feel it is important that brother Knoll's response to Linda Kirk be given equal viewing. Following this link will take you to the response given by brother Knoll. http://ernieknoll.com/documents/Letter%20to%20Linda%20Kirk.pdf

Vance Farrell wrote an article subjecting his view points with Linda Kirk. The article lends itself to Linda Kirk. We the group found Linda's loyalties to her former boss she used to be Steve Wohlberg's secretary.



David Gates who was sharing the messages of brother Knoll received an email from someone named LJ. In the email she discredits Brother Knoll. Brother Gates without verifying what he read was true or not quickly dismissed brother Knoll and sided with LJ. LJ are the initials of an individual named Laura Lee Jones. It was found in WorldNetDaily what Laura Lee Jones believes. It was found that David Gates had joined hands with a woman that not only promotes Feast Days but also according to her article, all of the "Sabbaths" in the month of August fall on Sunday. Here is a copy of the article with photos of LJ.



God's true calendar not a 7-day cycle?
Some Christians challenging system, say Sabbath 'floats' month to month

Posted: August 22, 2008
10:35 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Is it possible the entire world is just plain wrong when it comes to the current method of counting of days, weeks and months?

At least two Christian women on the Pacific Coast think so, as they claim God's original calendar set into motion at Creation is not based on a continuous seven-day week.

Their belief is that the "true" system of counting time is tied to what is called a "lunisolar" calendar, based upon both the sun and phases of the moon. They contend every new moon restarts the seven-day cycle, rather than having a continuous seven-day cycle which currently runs the world.


Laura Lee Vornholt-Jones

"I could have gone my whole life and such a concept would have never occurred to me," says Laura Lee Vornholt-Jones, a 39-year-old full-time mother in Spokane, Wash., who has adjusted her traditional Seventh-Day Adventist outlook of Saturday observance to this alternate method since learning of it in late 2006. "It was Earth-shattering to say the least."

Vornholt-Jones has posted this theory on her 4AngelsPublications website, where she offers her book on the issue, "The Great Calendar Controversy," for sale and for free viewing online.

She told WND she still observes a Sabbath – that is to say, a biblical day of rest – every seven days; but she says the precise day of the week for that Sabbath actually floats from month to month when compared to the Gregorian calendar commonly used today.

The theory suggests whatever day of the week the new moon occurs on, that particular day becomes "Day One" of the month.

Then, count seven days from Day One until you reach the initial Sabbath of the month, which would always be on the eighth calendar day of the month. The next day of rest would be on the 15th, then the 22nd and 29th.

Vornholt-Jones and her friend, photographer Kerrie French of Garden Valley, Calif., sought to bring the issue to light after reading a 2001 WND story in which Jan Marcussen, a fellow Seventh-Day Adventist from Thompsonville, Ill., was so sure there was no Bible verse declaring the first day of the week to be the Sabbath, he offered up to $1 million for clear, Scriptural proof. Kerrie French



These are a few of those who have taken the mantle of the ability to critique who they believe is and what God's message will be. These individuals have made their decisions and have documented their findings to convey the opinion of God's people. We the "Great Commission Council" study group will not do that. We invite each in through prayer and study to re-evaluate the messages brother Knoll has received. Call not evil good and good evil. Each will stand before God without the individuals mentioned above. We should follow the council given with "If you indulge stubbornness of heart, and through pride and self-righteousness do not confess your faults, you will be left subject to Satan's temptations. If when the Lord reveals your errors you do not repent or make confession, his providence will bring you over the ground again and again. You will be left to make mistakes of a similar character, you will continue to lack wisdom, and will call sin righteousness, and righteousness sin. The multitude of deceptions that will prevail in these last days will encircle you, and you will change leaders, and not know that you have done so. RH, December 16



How do we meet with the comments of the critics?



Those who have departed from the faith will come to our congregations to divert our attention from the work that God would have done. You cannot afford to turn your ears from the truth to fables. Do not stop to try to convert the one who is speaking words of reproach against your work, but let it be seen that you are inspired by the Spirit of Jesus Christ, and angels of God will put into your lips words that will reach the hearts of the opposers. If these men persist in pressing their way in, those who are of a sensible mind in the congregation will understand that yours is the higher standard. So speak that it will be known that Jesus Christ is speaking through you.--9T 148, 149



The item of open forums were discussed and we noticed a couple are controlled by certain individuals. We share this if only to alert our findings. Knowing that God has said "I must warn all our churches to beware of men who are being sent out to do the work of spies in our conferences and churches,--a work instigated by the father of falsehood and deception. Let every church-member stand true to principle. We have been told what would come, and it has come." Special Testimonies."



As we tried to participate in some of the forums it did not kindle a Christ like spirit. On one forum it was noticed that the testimony of Candace was deleted. We as a group feel that the individual who removed her testimony might meet with the criteria in the following statement. "I have been shown that evil angels in the form of believers will work in our ranks to bring in a strong spirit of unbelief. These powers of evil will assemble in our meetings, not to receive a blessing, but to counterwork the influences of the Spirit of God. In this time evil angels in the form of men will talk with those who know the truth. They will misinterpret and misconstrue the statements of the messengers of God." Selected Messages."



Conclusion

We have seen in a study of Zacharias and how dangerous it is and how careful we need to be before rejecting a message that comes from heaven. We recall how the leaders dismissed Ellen White. Are we going to make the same mistake again? Are we to reject Ernie Knoll's dreams? We have found NO error in the messages that have been presented so far. We the group aforementioned do stand behind and support the ministry of Brother Ernie Knoll. We encourage those faithful pastors to pray, study and review these messages God has sent. We have found that gross errors have been made by the critics mentioned and we watch as God deals accordingly.

It is our prayer, as a united group that we allow God to speak to all of us in unity.

There are a thousand temptations in disguise prepared for those who have the light of truth; and the only safety for any of us is in receiving no new doctrine, no new interpretation of the Scriptures, without first submitting it to brethren of experience. Lay it before them in a humble, teachable spirit, with earnest prayer; and if they see no light in it, yield to their judgment; for "in the multitude of counselors there is safety."--Testimonies, Vol. 5, pp. 291-293.

Our prayer is that God guide each as we study and not depend upon any man. You stand alone before God in that it is your decision. May God fill you with His Holy Spirit as you study.

The Great Commission Council

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Not all dreams and visions are from God. (YOU ARE RIGHT THAT'S WE REALLY NEED TO BE CAREFUL)

I understand your point bro. Math and thank you so much for all your input. For me as long as it helps me believe more about our LORD and does not divert my thoughts from Him, I'm still fine with it.
You right sister but a little bit disappointed, Why? Why we always have different ideas and opinions when it comes to our doctrines? We all have the resources Bible and SOP. But as far as what I noticed, we all have different interpretation of our doctrines instead of just one as we are only one as organization. Like for example, if you ask some of our brethren like how do we really keep the sabbath? or what is 144,000? or do we really celebrate the xmas or not? I'm sure if you ask them you'll get a lot of different answers. What do you think are missing in our organization why it's always like this?Do we need some way to work this out just to make us one (doctrines/beliefs) or this is the reality?
Truth is progressive. It has progressively unfolded over the last 6,000 years, revealing in greater light the love and knowledge of God to man. Truth will continue to be progressive throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity. The hidden things belong to God BUT the things He chooses to reveal belong to us and our children so that we could walk according to the LAW. Deuteronomy 29:29. & Proverbs 4:18.

The path of the just is like a shining light growing brighter unto the coming of the Lord. We will never be able to exhaust absolute truth even when we are translated and be perfect with Christ. In Patriarchs and Prophets we are told that Adam and Eve in their perfect state would have grown from one level of perfection to another BUT never being able to exhaust the absolute truth. Romans 11:33 and Job 11: 7-9.

John 5: 37-37 . Luke 24: 25 - 27 and 44 -45, Hebrews 13:8 yields divine wisdom for us concerning the correct interpretation of truth. We know that there is no private interpretation of truth that will stand the test of time. The litmus test of truth is as follows. It must:
Reveal Jesus Revelation 1:1
Be consistent with all previous light and pillars of the faith. Isaiah 28:10
It does not cast a shadow on the cross, the resurrection, and what Christ did and is doing. 1 Corinthians 15: 13,14.
It harmonizes with all scriptures, Old and New Testaments, not adding or substracting from the Word. Revelation 22: 18,19; Luke 24: 27
It never makes us think we have mastered knowledge BUT leaves us with an inspiring hunger for more. psalms 42:1
It convicts of sin and leads to deeper conversion experience. Psalms 51:6
It teaches us that what really matters is not how much you know BUT how much you know, share, and live with respect to the light that is revealed. psalms 51: 9-10.
Truth revealed and lived qualifies us immediately to be witnesses. if we do not share with the love and passion of Christ we bring discredit to God's power through His Word. Psalms 51:13
Every revelation of truth is in fact a deeper revelation of the life, work and ongoing ministry of Christ. Revelation 1:1
The more we search and learn the Word the more we understand about Christ and we increasingly see the exceeding sinfulness of sin. Psalms 51:13.
The pen of inspiration said that when we grow in the knowledge and wisdom of God we will have to repent of our previous repentance. Psalms 51: 1-3.
the power of truth in the life is not a theory or an intellectual journey but a continual life changing experience that shines, polishes, ennobles, inspires, humbles and drives us to pursue higher than the highest human thought, striving to perfect every perfect experience we have with our aim and motto being "CONTINUAL IMPROVEMENT:
God is never satisfied with stale bread, old experiences. God wants new fresh living bread to be served to His people. 2 Corinthians 5:17. fresh light, fresh revelations , new heights is the food for the soul living for Christ. Every second of the day brings new delights. Life is never a bore. Even as I write God is giving me new ways of seeing old truths exciting me to go and tell.

The pen of inspiration says every light we share brings abundant new light that delights the soul.

In Desire of Ages she said Christ was more refreshed by prayer and meditation that sleep. New does not necessarily mean different, rather it means deeper.

All new light leads to a deeper appreciation of Christ. Psalms 119:130.

As time progresses God will reveal the nature of certain truths. Let us tarry, pray and fast, holding fast to the pillars of the faith already established and wait for God to say this is the way walk ye in it.

Even E.G. White as inspired as she was when first presented with different interpretations of the tithe, pork, sanctuary, and sabbath issues, just to name a few, did not immediately accept. However she was humble to admit, when God revealed the truth on these issues and their correct interpretations, that she was able to accept the truth.

Let us not hurry God. if our hearts are pure, humble and repentant we will know the doctrine which is of God. Some things come by prayer, fasting and with the passage of time. Let us do like the pioneers and spend nights and months searching, driving the shaft deeper yet and wait with the patience of the saints to unearth the deep hidden treasures of God. It took thousands of years for us to inherit the depth and width of sound doctrine we have today. The race is almost over, the cup is almost full, the race is not for the swift BUT we who endure to the end. He will complete this work and will complete all truths in His own time.

There is nothing more pleasing to God than the saints searching the WORD. THAT IS THE WAY WE DEVELOP MENTAL AND MORAL NERVE, MUSCLE, AND SINEW TO RUN THE LAST LEG OF THIS RACE SUCCESSFULLY.

Let us glory in what we know already, and pray and fast for what new light is still to come through the latter rain. To whom much is given much is required. Let God reveal the truths for this time. Let us in kindred spirit work together in seeking truth, bring it before the brethren, like skillfull archaeologists let us be careful in unearthing new treasure so as not to damage the old.

All truth begins and ends with Jesus. The Revelation of truth and Jesus is the work of the Godhead let us through prayer and fast be ready when it comes. Let God correct and adjust all of us as he plants the life of Christ in us through the Holy Spirit. God is able.

No man can destroy what is true to the believer. Truth is preserved forever in the hand of God. Like Uzzah let us not try to steady the ark that is God's work. We might destroy ourselves in doing what ONLY God can do.

Stand still in faith, weep, pray and see the glory of truth come forth as a mighty wind shaking what needs to be shaken and sealing in the truth those who are ready to be sealed. The time of uncertainty is the greatest time as a woman in travail. The best for the time is coming forth by God let us await the perfect work in prayer.

Every questionable new light has already been dealt with by God and ONLY God can handle its evolution. Like Moses let us stand still and see the salvation of the Lord and fullfill what habbakuk 2: 20 says The Lord is in His Holy temple: let the earth keep silence before Him.

Have you been extremely quiet as you await a great piece of work getting ready to be revealed/ unveiled.

All the diamonds of truth we enjoy today was once the subject a million diferent interpretations BUT God delivered the final touch down for us to inherit as good doctrine, shaking out the unnecessary parts and polishing the gem so we colud cherish them.

There are more diamonds in the rough God is working on, be not fearful NOTHING can damage the TRUTH it is forever. Past, present and future. Let us be patient with great expectations, so He could do a perfect and complete job of providing a greater inheritance for us. Amen




I'M NOT SURE IF I still NEED TO TELL YOU THIS, if you imagine what the farmers are doing, if they see weeds, (depends where you are or your budgets are) some will use something (weed killer, I can't remember the name, sorry) to kill weeds while their still small, some will just ignore the weeds till they're big enough to be pulled out by hand, some will just wait till harvest time and separates them. If you notice they are all choosing the weeds and take them out while letting the true ones remain. Here's my question, Do you think we cannot do that with the dreams of EK? If you see mistakes in the dreams as you said, why don't you just take them out and move on? Actually this is just my personal logic, you are free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm telling you this because in EK's dreams I believe there are some TRUTHS that we need to acknowledge.

I hope you get my point. God bless you.
Brother that is the danger in this. There are "SOME truths". You can mix a little tiny bit if poison in some good wholesome juice and it will kill you! Almost every religion has "some truth". This is not our standard. We want a Thus saith the Lord. We want pure truth. We do not want a truth mixed with error. Truth mixed with error is more dangerous than just error. This is what Satan has done to deceive minds of human beings all along! That is why they are deceived! Satan did not tell Eve a straight error lie in the Garden of Eden. He mixed a little truth in there too! That is why she was deceived! Brethren, We must be very watchful. Isaiah 8: 19-20 is our standard. We must go back to the Word of God to judge all professed prophets, teachers, visions, dreams, miracles etc. If a little truth mixed with error was good than all religions would be just fine! Because there is some truth in most of the religions around the world. Let us take Gods word as our guide. lets us stand true in defense of TRUTH!
References:
Early Writings P. 138
Great Controversy P 593
2 Selected Messages P. 53
This Day With God P. 13
Review And Herald, Jan. 10, 1888 Par. 3
Review And Herald, Jan. 31, 1888 Par. 1
Signs Of The Times, Nov. 24, 1887
Who is the Great Commission Council? Why should anyone care what they say? How do I know it is not just one person? Tell the world who you are if you want people to take your seriously.
As a people we are faced with the need to train and teach as many as will through prayer and fast and Bible study coupled with the searching of the Spirit of prophecy. Any message from God in these last days should be in harmony with the greatest need in the Church to repent and return to the clear counsels sent to the church through E.G. White and most of all the sixty six sacred Books of the Bible

In times of the last 6,000 years God's pattern has been to send one major prophet at a time. Noah, Moses, Abraham, Daniel, Ezekiel, John the Baptist, E.G.White........etc. Each prophetic message calling on God's people to repent with additional information on God's specific prophetic events some with more detail than others. Each major prophet covered a major era with God's people, helping to define the uniqueness of that time.

God in His wisdom does not operate in confusion and complexity but rather with divine simplicity so that even the most uneducated can understand. He sends one key messenger at a time for each era with other supportive individuals as reminders to put us in remembrance though we be established in the truth. 2 Peter 1: 12,13.

Anyone who has had a thorough reading and experience with the Spirit of Prophecy is led to sense and know that in this time of and period of ATONEMENT and investigative judgement we have an era of prophetic messages through E.G. White that takes us directly through the end of times with the similiar John the Baptist message of repent and be baptized and prepare for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

I do believe that when Jesus left the earth he sent the Comforter whose prime purpose was to testify of Him and reveal Him in a deeper manner to the world. So too any prophetic messages in these last days will be for the prime purpose of pointing us to the fulfillment of the prophetic messages of the already established in the lesser light the Spirit of Prophecy. There is one lesser light on earth, one moon. This planet has been served well with one moon. There is so much in the Spirit of prophecy that still needs to be read and studied, great gifts and revelations from God that needs still to be explored that can carry us through the end of times.
The need for converted appetite and following the Laws of health as sacred as the Ten Commandments.
The need to simplify our lives, making it neat, clean, tidy and well ordered.
The need to search scriptures and study with prayer and fast the Books of Daniel and Revelation.
The need to go from door to door, training our youth in the pillars of the faith.
The need to sacrifically and selflessly engage in ally types of missionary work.
The need to pray earnestly for the latter rain and put away every known sin through the power of the Holy Spirit so we could be sealed.
The need to be ready for transitioning from city life to country life.
The need to write and share new light consistent with the law and the testimony.
The need to live up to all known light that God has already given.

We are told in the Spirit of prophecy that great light will become gross darkness if we do not live up to the previous light given. The same sun that hardens the mud melts the wax.

After much prayer and study it is clear that our major prophet for these times is E.G.White. Presidents, Pastors, leaders and members should spend time searching the great wealth God has given us through E.G.White and appreciate the depth of knowledge already laid out to help us navigate through these perilous times. Her writings are always sublime, sacred, intensely Bible based and always urging repentance and complete dependence on Christ. As the Holy Spirit was sent by Christ to reveal Jesus so too must any new light today help us with deeper understanding of the only lesser light for these end times the Spirit of prophecy by E.G.White.

Let us be wise as serpents and harmless as doves and be further attracted and not distracted from the message of the major prophet for our times - E.G.White through any new light that is coming. Additional light will never diminish previous light and be never personality prone BUT principle led. New light will never be equal to the width and breadth of what God has already established for us in these times through the long established, extensively already proven, distinguished, Christ filled, Bible based, latter rained, movingly inspirational Spirit of Prophecy.

Thanks for your inputs sister, it helps a lot. May the Lord bless you and keep you always. Stay focus.

Things are getting interesting. I pray that we all see each other in Heaven. God bless you.
HALLO BROTHERS & SISTERS,
THE SPIRIT OF CONTENTION IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF GOD,DESIST FROM IT .I'M FOLLOWNG CAREFULLY SOME OF YOUR ARGUMENTS ;YOU SEEM TO BE GOING TOO FAR FROM THE HUMBLE AND TEACHABLE SPIRIT OF GOD, FORSAKE OF THOSE WHO WANT KNOW ABOUT THE SUBJECT MATTER.
THE BIBLE IN EX.18 Vs 21- WHEN THINGS NEEDED TO BE DONE RIGHT " ABLE MEN ,SUCH AS FEAR THE LORD..." WERE NEEDED. IN MY LAYMAN'S LANGUAGE THESE ARE MEN OF "EXPERIENCE FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT"
IN A FORUM EVERYONE HAS RIGHT TO SHARE HIS/HER VIEWS AS LONG AS IT IS NOT VICTIMISING OR PERSONALYZING ISSUES. REMEMBER "..GOD AND HEAVEN ALONE ARE INFALLIBLE.."
WHAT'S G.C MINISTERIAL STATEMENT ON THIS ?
That's the reason why I'm trying to get all our ideas. I believe that we all have differences esp. on what we believe and many more. I'm also wondering why even as we are SDA, we all have different doctrines that we follow, or maybe not doctrines but interpretation. It's like we're not united when it comes to our doctrines. Some have this kind of interpretation and others are not. I'm noticing that everywhere. I don't really know what to say, is this a healthy sign of our organization as SDA?
To the Law and to the Testimony. We need to abide in this statement. Once again I am so thrilled and blessed by these powerful Spirit of Prophecy quotations that are so relevant to the times. Love to God will give us the true spirit to reach and teach, rescuing all from the wiles of satan.

We need to lift up with the humble spirit of Christ all the knowledge, wisdom and understanding to all at this time, since this is just signs of the beginning of great woes.

I have seen some of the best deceived when a sudden and intricate rise of spiritualism rise in every form. If the Word of God backed by the sound Spirit of Prophecy information is not rooted and grounded in us many due to their lack of armor will fall to the deceptive virus of all forms of spiritualism that is ready to be unleashed in an unprecedented manner.

We cannot ever defend ourselves and NEVER will be able to, with all the knowledge we may have, it is the Word of God through the Holy Spirit that would defend us providing light to discern truth from error.

Like the vision given to Ezekiel in the valley with dry bones and with Moses building the sanctuary, It is God who will breathe His Spirit on His people to empower them to stand against the wiles of the devil. It was God who parted the Red Sea, brought water from the rock, made the sun to stand still, brought the walls of Jericho down among many other mighty deeds and miracles and it will ONLY be God who will bring us through again.

God can only lead those who live by the Word and in the last days those who are sealed through the latter rain. many will have eyes to see and cannot see, ears to hear and cannot hear. When the Spirit of God is withdrawn many will fall prey to these deceptions because they were not immunized through the Word and the Spirit of Prophecy under the power of the latter rain.

Now is the time, under the fierce urgency of now to train, teach, pull from the fire, rescue the perishing and prepare the faint of heart who would listen.

E. G. White with all the Spirit of Prophecy writings is the major prophet for these times. God will use other minor prophets of different lands to present additional light from the Spirit of prophecy BUT there will be no major works as was provided through her divinely inspired writings. Just as there will be no other Old or New Testaments added to the Bible for these are the end times. One unchanging sun and one unchanging moon is sufficient for God's people to face all the evil attacks Satan is ready to unleash.

Thank God all who love, live, move by the Word and their Testimony and are strengthened by the Spirit of Prophecy and love not their lives unto death will stand, GUARANTEED. Revelation 2:10 and Revelation 12:11.

Such a people will have the greatest sign of being Christians, the complete passionate hunger for the lost with love reaching out to all souls with the message of salvation, before it is too late. By the fruit of love you will know them.

Let us stay focused....MARANATHA.
Yes. We must be aware of those who would promote false dreams and visions.

May we depend upon God and His visions rather than the visions of man.

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