I went to the World Harvest Outreach Church SDA Church with my family. Doug Batechelor was preaching there. So far, okay, right. Wrong. I use a Walker for my OPMD. I tried to follow my family, because I didn't want to lost in the crowd. I was kicked in the wheels of my walker, shoved, pushed in front of and even struck by fellow Adventists, and had to find a method of escape to avoid the constant selfish beating. Then, I went to the parking lot, and several people, some of who were giving that beating, were sitting in the handicapped parking lot eating, while not being handicapped. I challenged them on it and got flippant answers, until I threatened to call the police. However one lazy non-handicapped man, whose TX License plate is: 7DV NFZ, in a Blue Toyota Matrix. Then someone took the time scratch up our car. When we dropped by the local church, to resolve an issue of my son being picked on and austricised my son, his grandmother started cussing everyone out. I said, I was tired of the Anti-Semitic nonsense, and I would leave before I said something I would regret. It was being hashed out with the Pastor until this woman got in my wife's face and screamed at her and made her cry. Livingston, SDA Church. My daughter was crying, so I went back in and yelled at the lady not to ever yell at my wife and make her cry. Then she put her finger in my face and called me a 'Nigger'. That devolved into me calling her an Anti-Semitic Bitch. Then the Pastor's wife told me I was the problem and to leave. So, I told them, 'Fine, I have taken two beatings from Adventists today, I renounce you and this religion!' and left.
I don't want to be an Adventist anymore.
Have you ever received a physical beating at church. I now can say I have, as a handicapped man no less. I suppose you are single, so I guess you don't know what it is like to have your family verbally assaulted in Church, by supposed leaders? If so, tell me my feelings are wrong. All in one day. Tell me why I should even want to be an Adventist if such things can be 80 miles of each other in the same day.
Sorry, I cannot justify this constant pernicious sin and demonic activity that seems to have invaded our churches. It is time for revival or separation. And frankly, I could care less which as my sore body can testify to that still aches from the beating I received in the house of my supposed brothers. The second church has become so wicked that the lights turn off by themselves, doors open and close by themselves, and there have been demonic sightings in the attic. God has abandoned them, and so shall I.
Brother Heisenberg, if it means anything, I apologize on behalf of those who did this and say it could have been me had it not been for Christ saving me. Your story pains me to see how people treat each other especially someone with a disability. What a poor reflection of the loving Lord we claim to serve! Clearly, that behavior is not Christian, let alone Adventist. Even then, I would not leave the church if I were in your place (hard to imagine as it is). Stay around. Perhaps God will give you the grace to witness these same brethren turn around like Joseph's brothers, or Saul (Paul) after the stoning of Stephen.
My wife is trying to convince me to go to another Church 60 miles away. I may consider it depending on the responses I get from the Church responsible in Houston, or the Conference. If I don't I will be taking a hiatus from Church altogether to lick my wounds. In some cases literally.
I'm sorry about the way you were treated Heisenberg. What you can do is pray for the people who hurt you in that church. That will remove any feelings of unforgiveness or resentment in your heart, if there be any; and your prayers can bring them to Christ. Those people who harmed you are not converted yet (and Paul from the Bible also persecuted God's people. Manasseh was even worse and God changed their hearts)
I must say how much I appreciate this discussion. It really helped me with something I am facing right now, at this very moment. Especially Jason's replies. Thanks a lot Jason and Heisenberg.
This is the first time I've heard anything like that from the adventist church. I think it's the strangest thing I've heard all year. The Spirit of Prophecy said that even if we see these things happening in the Church, The Church Still Stands (even if some of our own leaders turn against us) The Chaff has to be separated from the wheat. And according to this sermon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH0U0kKNEVc 99% of the church members has to be shaken out. The majority of true Christians are in the other denominations, and not in the SDA church. They will fill the church after the chaff has been removed from us.. So don't give up on the Church :) probably you could find another adventist church with nicer people? There are nice people everywhere! God will give you strength (Joy) and He will Guide you in the way you should respond to this situation.
But Dan, how can you apologize for one half of a story? The pastor’s wife may have been correct, Heisenberg (Daniel) could have been at fault here. It sounds as if he wants people to pay him extra attention because of his condition.
Maybe he should think about his own actions, and pray for himself. Maybe if he stop taking picture of other people parking habits he’ll be better off.
Really, for ganging up on a woman, who approached the folks causing the problem, and was rudely rebuffed. Then took it to Pastor, only to be cussed out, screamed at, lied about, all the while the Pastor's wife ganged up on the abuse. If that is Christian in your book, you are of your father the Devil. I want to be left alone, because of my condition. I guess you have never been the victim of a hate crime. By your reactions, it sounds like you are perpetrator of hate crimes.