Tags: Resurrection
Permalink Reply by Gabriel Rodriguez de Espinoza on February 24, 2011 at 10:20am When God makes a promise, espeically resurrection of the saints then it's pretty obvious that he is going to do it.
I presented a study on the state of the dead last night at the Adventist Christian Fellowship at Kennesaw State University which included this current topic.
Now the question that I should ask you, do you believe in the word of God?
Permalink Reply by Dorival N Dumitru on February 28, 2011 at 11:07am Dear Gabriel,
Thank you for your participation. Would you share your study with us? Thus, many may be bless by it...
Now, let me repeat the question for you: Is possible to apply this prophetic words (Daniel 12:2 to the teaching of Revelation twenty? What is your opinion? When and why it (the resurrection mentioned in Daniel) shall take place?
Permalink Reply by Gabriel Rodriguez de Espinoza on February 28, 2011 at 12:02pm Sure, I would love too!
It's pretty easy and I can apply what I presented at Kennesaw State University...
First, let's establish the foundation
When will the dead come back to life?
in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1 Corinthians 15:52
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Daniel 12:2
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
1 Thessalonians 4:16
And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.
John 6:39
So it’s pretty obvious with the keywords: last trumpet and last day it pretty much summarized that the dead in Christ will arise first to meet with the lord. Some of the wicked will be raised such as the people who participated in the crucifixion of Jesus to behold his glory. (Revelation 1:7) Now, some of pieces of the puzzles have been put together with Daniel 12:2. Let’s take a look at Revelation 20:
1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years
Revelation 20:1-6
The devil and his demons has been bound on earth along with the wicked has been slain by God but the saints that went up to heaven are with Christ for a thousand years. We’re talking about two groups of people, 1. People who has never experienced death which are caught with God
(1 Thessalonians 4:17). 2. The saints who slept in Christ who has been brought up from their dusty graves (Daniel 12:2). Now all of the pieces of the puzzles have been put together. There isn’t need for me to give an opinion since the word of God is easy to understand.
Permalink Reply by Alexander on September 2, 2011 at 5:26am Blessings everyone,
Would it be fair to say that the "last day" is a very short time for the Saints of God. We don't know exactly how long Christ will be here gathering all the saved from all ages, but Heaven is only silent for about a half an hour, which is about 7 or 8 twnety-four hour days.
Whereas the destruction of the wicked will last about 1000 years! It starts at the Second Coming of Christ and doesn't end until after the 1000 years with all wickedness being destroyed.
God Bless, Alex.
Permalink Reply by Sammy Lee on February 24, 2011 at 12:02pm Yes, you are right about the two main resurrections, which are the first resurrection of the saints at Jesus second coming, and then after the 1000 years and at His third coming to the earth together with all His saints and the capital city of New Jerusalem, there will be another resurrection called the second resurrection for the wicked.
But based on the text you quoted there will be a special resurrection for just a specially chosen group from both the saints and the wicked. From among the saints, EGW mentioned about very special people throughout the ages and those who died during the proclamation of the three angels message. They will be given the privilege to witness the glory of the coming of the Lord whom they have faithfully served and some even have sacrificed their lives for Him, and of course among others, the prophet of Daniel. Then from among the wicked will be included those who have plotted against Jesus to crucify Him, and those who persecuted His followers through the ages and those who blatantly were against the proclamation of the truth. These all will be resurrected, the wicked only temporarily and the resurrected saints will be taken with the living saints to the city of New Jerusalem to live there for 1000 years and after that for eternity here on earth.
Permalink Reply by Dorival N Dumitru on February 28, 2011 at 11:20am Dear Sammy,
I really appreciated you explanation. It brings light to the very point we are considering. Please, continue with us and, share more of your conclusions on this particular prophetic event: when such mix group resurrection shall take place? How long before the coming of Jesus in glory? How are they coming from the grave? What will happen with the saints among them? What will happen with the wicked among them, during that time till they witness the glorious coming of our Lord? How all these facts are so relevant to God's people today? Thank you.
Permalink Reply by Frank T. Clark on February 24, 2011 at 12:34pm The text you mention:
Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
It is one of the clues which lead to a belief in the special resurrection. This is a doctrine which is rarely spoken about in the church but is found in the Spirit of Prophecy. Some suggest the following text also hints at a special resurrection:
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
The idea is certain people will arise just before the Second Coming to witness His arrival. A third hint:
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
This is very controversial, not well understood, and not generally discussed. Only deep students of the Bible have any clue about this.
Permalink Reply by Dorival N Dumitru on February 28, 2011 at 11:51am Dear Frank,
Yes, as you mentioned, this must be a doctrine and part of the Present Truth. I am seeing that in Daniel 12:2, we might have the explanation on how Matthew 26:64 and Revelation 1:7 could be fulfilled! Is it not wonderful? Oh, sad is what you mentioned about it being so controversial, misinterpreted or just ignored by many... Should we not try help to bring it to the simplicity of the Gospel? I see Jesus Christ as the center of such prophecy, because He is Michael, who shall stand for His people! Who at that very time, time of trouble, as never happened before shall bring these mix group to life again and keep them alive to see Him coming in glory!!! So, if we died in the faith today, we may be called in such occasion and have this privilege, too?
Permalink Reply by Dickson K. Gidion on February 25, 2011 at 11:48am Yes it is possible, when we relate the prophecy of Rev. 20 and Daniel 21. Jesus says "every eye will see the son of a man comming in his glory" so all saints and evil will see him comming with his glory. The saints will be saved after resuration and the evil will wait their punnishment. May be recall to the comments below Quated from the bible commentary [BC].
"How Satan’s activities will be brought to a halt is clear from the context and from other scriptures, which show that the earth will be utterly depopulated at the second coming of Christ. According to ch. 19:19–21 the wicked are all destroyed in connection with the coming (see comment there). At the same time the righteous are "caught up … in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air" (1 Thess. 4:17). Paul’s language shows that at His second coming Christ does not establish His kingdom on earth; else why would He remove the saints from the earth? Its establishment takes place after the close of the millennium, when the New Jerusalem comes down (Rev. 21:1–3). That Jesus removes the saints from the earth at His coming is further implied in John 14:1–3. In comforting His disciples in their sorrow concerning His departure, Jesus informed them that He was going to His Father’s house, where He would prepare dwellings for them. Then He would return and take them to be with Him. Compare John 13:36; 17:24. The dwellings are doubtless in the New Jerusalem, which is not transferred to this earth until the close of the millennium (see on Rev. 21:1–3).
The group that is caught up to meet the Lord in the air includes both the righteous dead, who are raised at the time of the advent, and the righteous living, who are "changed" (1 Cor. 15:51; 1 Thess. 4:16, 17). The company of resurrected saints thus includes all the righteous who have ever lived upon the earth. There are but two main resurrections, the "resurrection of life" and the "resurrection of damnation" (John 5:29; Acts 24:15). At these resurrections, "all that are in the grave … shall come forth" (John 5:28, 29). Some have insisted that the phrase "dead in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:16) includes only the Christians who have died, and that the OT[Old Testament] saints are not included. But the above scriptures show that all the righteous come forth in the resurrection of the just. The phrase "dead in Christ" need not exclude the OT saints, for they died with their hope fixed on a Messiah to come. Their resurrection is dependent upon the resurrection of Christ, for only "in Christ shall all be made alive" (1 Cor. 15:22). The resurrection of the righteous is further described as the "first resurrection" (Rev. 20:5, 6)."
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