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Must we believe in Sis White in order to be an Adventist and to be save

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no, Jesus is the only way to salvation, by reading the what Mrs. White wrote can make us clearly understand on how God really loves us.
I feel the Bible and the Holy Spirit is enough to lead us to eternal life. I agree wholeheartedly with Stewardjake, we can be saved with or without the writings of Sis White. I don't believe that her writings are equal to the Bible. I have learned many things from her writings, but I feel sometime the church put her a little higher than she should be. If I am wrong, I want to know, because I want to make heaven my home. I ask these questions for more understanding. I do not want to be opinionated. Thank you for the responses,
this is a very controversial question creating dividing waves in the hearts of Adventist believers.if we study the history of church,the roman persecution,struggle between Judaism,post roman era......and so on we see that GOD has led a lot of faithful people through the hardest times.. now did these people have any written material to strengthen their faith or they solely believed in the power of the holy spirit?the gospels are believed to be written in AD 90... WHICH SUGGESTS THAT THE PERSECUTION HAS ALREADY BEGUN....and revelation is written during the persecution by where does these great brave Christians get their strength from....or are they not going to be saved? they had tremendous faith in JESUS [ they have not seen him and they don't have ''steps to Christ'' in their desk..] but God led ever the situation is different now,in this problem filled world with lot of confusion and increase in knowledge we need more guidance from holy spirit...GOD FELT THE NEED OF THE UP COMING GENERATION.. so He sent messengers like WHITE...we don't have to mock at it ..i think its god"s provision....but ultimately we are saved thruogh grace and work of Christ,whom i can receive and understand even without reading 'steps to Christ'. HE is there in my life......YOU CAN INVITE HIM EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME''FAMOUS BOOKS''RECOMMENDED BY OUR CHURCH
I totally agree with you Steward
Who is this Ellen White?

Artist Elfred Lee's Testimony of Rabbi Joe Kagan:

"I met Rabbi Joe Kagan at Weimar Institute in CA. His family had come
from Eastern Europe where his aunt had been raped while a priest stood
over her with a crucifix saying, "This is what you get for killing
Christ." So you can imagine the feeling of many Jews towards
Christianity. American Christians are not at all like Europeans.

His family moved to the US while he was young. At age 13 he debuted at
Carnegie Hall as a cantor. He had a beautiful, tenor voice. He
received a very high education and became a rabbi. I met him in his
later years in 1978 after he had been on Ronald Reagan's staff in
Sacramento as their research man. If there were any questions about
any subject, he was the one that did the research and found the

He had a very negative attitude towards Christianity. He would never
touch the New Testament. However, he knew the Jewish Old Testament
(Torah) extremely well as a highly educated rabbi would. One day he
got hold of a book called "Patriarchs and Prophets" by Ellen G. White.
He read it with astonishment and wanted to know who this Ellen White
was. That is when I met him. He was asking who is this Ellen G. White,
and what university did she attend. We told him she only had a 3rd
grade education. "Then, where did she learn Hebrew?" he asked. We told
him that she never knew Hebrew, but was the most prolific female
writer in history and that this was only one of her books.

He was amazed at her knowledge, saying that the information in this
book (Patriarchs and Prophets) is Mishnaic. The Mishnah is part of the
Hebrew scholarship. He said the Mishnah had only been translated into
English 30 years ago and that only high-level rabbis knew this
information. This is the history of my people and it is very, very
accurate. He also said that you have to know Hebrew to be able to
write like this because her sentence structure is not
English, it's Hebrew...The rhythm, the meter, the arrangement of words
and expressions are not English. He said it's as if she wrote in
Hebrew and it was translated into English.

My family and I developed a strong friendship with Joe, his wife and
son. As we studied the Bible and some Ellen White books together one
day, he said, "I am convinced that Ellen White was inspired by the
same source that inspired the Hebrew prophets. I want to become a
Christian. I accept Jesus Christ as my Messiah." Now, he would not
have come to Christ through reading the Bible. Even though the Hebrew
Bible is full of prophecies pointing to the Messiah, it took Ellen
White's writings to prove to him that Jesus Christ was the fulfillment
of all the Hebrew prophecies. And only then did he pick up the New
Testament and read about his Jewish Messiah.

Many times I saw him cry. I was in the middle of a painting commission
for a large mural called "Christ The Way of Life" for the world
headquarters of the Seventh Day Adventist church in Washington DC. He
became very involved with that painting. The painting had originally
been inspired by James and Ellen White who had commissioned an
engraver to do a black and white drawing of the subject. He confirmed
to me that Ellen White's concept was very accurate on the whole plan
of salvation in both the Old and New Testament, but that the engraver
had misrepresented her concepts. So he helped me in many details to
make the painting historically and theologically accurate; especially
regarding the sanctuary section, the Hebrew writing on the cross and
the last supper scene. He told me to paint Jesus and his disciples at
an oriental style table, sitting on mats on the floor - not Roman
couches as the medieval artists painted. Further, he said their heads
would be covered and he made sure I painted the wine, the unleavened
bread and the bitter herbs and their symbolism exactly as they would
have been. He approved of the whole painting and we had an unveiling
ceremony at the Auburn SDA Church in late 1979. He had written a song
to go with the painting and sat at the organ as we unveiled the
painting. He wept as he sang the words of Jesus on the cross quoting
Isaiah, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" He sang and sang and wept and
wept, his whole body shaking. There was not a dry eye in the whole
church. His voice was so beautiful.

The original painting hangs in the new SDA world headquarters in
Silver Spring, Maryland where they have posters and Bible studies of
the painting. I could never have done it without the inspiration of
Rabbi Kagan and Ellen White. I wish they were still alive!

We were at his secret baptism in the Bear River above Sacramento on
Saturday night Dec. 22, 1979. There were four of us present. He could
not even tell his wife and son that he was now a Christian. As he came
up out of the cold water praising God and singing to his new Messiah,
he said, "I am now a completed Jew. I have now accepted the Old and
New Testament and the Messiah that all Jewish prophets told us about!"

I was recently in Europe giving some workshops on art and some of my
archeological work in the Middle East. I happened to meet a Jewish
family from Israel. Shalom David was originally from Iraq and his wife
from Chile. They were now attending a college in Europe where I met
with quite a bit of opposition to the writings of Ellen White. This
Jewish family invited me to their home for Shabbat (Friday night
supper.) It was a most enjoyable occasion as his wife and beautiful
children sang and celebrated the arrival of Sabbath as Jews have done
for thousands of years. I told them the story of Rabbi Kagan and he
got very excited. He said, "The same thing happened to me! I would
have rather burned the Bible then touch it! I wanted nothing to do
with Christianity, but I also read the writings of Ellen White and the
Spirit of God was on that woman. Her writings are as if she wrote in
Hebrew. You can definitely hear the Hebrew rhythm, meter and
expressions in her books. I also believe she was inspired by the same
source as the Hebrew prophets. And she has helped me fall in love with
Jesus Christ, my Messiah."

I just met yesterday with a rabbi living here in California - Rabbi
Ben. It was a follow up to a Sabbath meal I was invited to this last
Sabbath with him and a group of Adventists. He went through the whole
ceremony at the meal just like Rabbi Kagan and as my new friend
(Shalom David) in Europe had. So yesterday we were talking over Hebrew
ceremonies and how they are still effective in healing disease.

Rabbi Ben told me that he has also had the same experience. He hated
the Bible but that Ellen White brought him to Christ and helped him
read the New Testament and fall in love with the Messiah. He also told
me that he had gone to visit one of the most influential rabbis in
America who is in his 90s who must remain unnamed. While in this
rabbi's library talking, he was scanning the many, many books on his
walls and there he saw the book "Patriarchs and Prophets" by Ellen
White. Rabbi Ben asked him about it and where he had gotten it, "Why
do you have this book by a Christian author?"
The rabbi said, "This as a very authoritative source on our history."

I recently shared this testimony on T.V. at 3 Angels Broadcasting
Network. My phone has been ringing day and night by interested
people from as far away as India and Australia saying, "we want to
know more about Joe Kagan and Ellen White."
I woulldn't say we need to believe in Sister White to be an Adventist kor tp be saved, If we believe in the Bible and follow it we would not need her wrightings, I think Mrs. White made a statement that if we really studyed our Bibles like we should her wrightings would not be necessary,but that being said I surley would not go against what she had to say. She was really a down to earth person who was very commited to God. I wish I would have payed closer attention to what she had to say when I was younger. Thoe older I got and the more I read it made a lot of sence to me. Like things she wrote about health 100 years ago sincence is just now proving that she ws right, so like I said I shure would not discout the concele she gave


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