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I have not been active here for some time so I am not sure if a topic of this nature has been here before but I have been hearing from brethren that God does not destroy. Can you people enlighten me on this please using sound evidence if this is so or not. I am also doing my studies on the subject.

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When God makes a judgement sometimes destruction is part of that judgement. For example the flood only eight survived Sodom and Gomorra Lot and his daughters survived. 

 

There are numerous possible examples of God using his power in ways that could be classified as destruction.  Can you provide more context for us to take into consideration with regards to your question?  

Is there a certain type or scale you are referring to?  What comes to mind when you think of something being destroyed?

I think I know what she is talking about. There is a brother from my church who says that the flood came as a result of sin; that God did not directly destroy the Earth, He just removed his protection from it and then destruction came...

I can sympathize and think I understand the sentiment behind that belief; however I disagree with how it's stated.

Hopefully the passages below give a bit more clarity to the grand scheme of things. Based on a general understanding of how it was written. It indicates God did more than just remove his protection. He knew the end result and as always had purpose in his actions.

Genesis 6:11-12
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Genesis 7:1-4

1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. 

2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. 

3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. 

4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

I have been hearing lately that there is a doctrine saying that God don't destroy. I have no knowledge of it and was hoping to get some insight into why one would believed such.

That doctrine would not be SDA I am sure, although we hear some Pastors preaching things no well supported in the Bible. 

Take the Flood, for example, God said He would bring it to come about. Gen. 6. The Bible does not tell us exactly how He made this happen but one can guess and some geological evidence does support how the flood came about. 

Sodom and Gomorrah we find sulphur balls there God could have stopped these things from happening if He  wanted to 

The Angel of death killed 185'000 overnight 

Then the angel of the Lord went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning—there were all the dead bodies!
Clearly, destruction brought about by God.  

Hi Leslie,

I don't have any knowledge nor do I prescribe any doctrine that contradicts biblical accounts of the power of God as it relates to destruction. 

From my understanding, to think so would lessen God's stature.as Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending... God is, was, and forever will be the Almighty.

I think the confusion is that people believe destruction is an act of pure evil.   However, in the wicked vs righteous or Good vs evil realm that God operates in with full understanding it's not that simple from a mere mortal sense .

Rabbit I realize that hence the reason I put the thread up so those who believe likewise can enlighten me why they believe what they believe....for me its not about SDA belief its about truth.

Understood, The way you stated the question seemed easy enough to answer without a lot of debate.  That's why I asked the question below earlier which Janny responded to.  

"Is there a certain type or scale you are referring to?  What comes to mind when you think of something being destroyed?"

I've heard similar reasons as the one Janny passed alone.  As well as perspectives like the one Stewart gave.  But to be honest I usually find it easier and clearer to stick to biblical accounts.

To rephrase my question earlier.  Did you ask the brethren you initially mentioned to clarify their stance?  Did they give any examples?  Perhaps their thinking was more along the lines of how Reasoning responded. 

While Reasoning doesn't directly give give the answer to the question as you asked it.  It does explain cause and effect.  The cause inferring we as sinners are responsible for how we will be judged. The effects simply proving yes, God does destroy. Which is the answer to how the question was phrased..  

Does God destroy?

Those that have respect for the Spirit of Prophecy will not be hasty with that question. 

"God destroys no man. Everyone who is destroyed will have destroyed himself." (Christ's Object Lessons p.84.)

And again,

"God destroys no one. The sinner destroys himself by his own impenitence." (5Testimonies p.120.)

And,

"...when men pass the limits of divine forbearance, that restraint [i.e. God's restraint over the evil one] is removed. God does not stand toward the sinner as an executioner of the sentence against transgression; but He leaves the rejectors of His mercy to themselves, to reap that which they have sown." (Great Controversy p.36.)

Peace


Hey.... Brother Stewart, how have you been? I missed you man..... I hope is well with you and your family. :)


Interesting study, Rabbittroup presented verses from Gen.7:1-4, that says, "... every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.". GOD said HE will destroy. However you present SOP statements that says it's sinners that destroy themselves, not GOD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that you may disagree with the belief of GOD destroying the inhabitants of earth that are sinners. 

 I believe both views are correct and harmonizes, let me explain, the SOP is correct, sinners are the reason for being them being destroyed, that's the main and only reason, but as the Bible says, GOD does the destroying of sinners, and SOP also agrees..

EGW : "The world had become so corrupt through indulgence of appetite and debased passion in the days of Noah that God destroyed its inhabitants by the waters of the Flood." Con 24.2

EGW : "Satan urged that if He was indeed the Son of God He should give him evidence of His exalted character. He approached Christ with temptations upon appetite. He had overcome Adam upon this point, and he had controlled his descendants, and through indulgence of appetite, had led them to provoke God by iniquity until their crimes were so great that the Lord destroyed them from off the earth by the waters of the Flood. – {Con 39.2}

EGW : "The knowledge of the way of life, peace, health, must be given line upon line, precept upon precept, that men and women may see the need of reform. They must be led to renounce the debasing customs and practices which existed in Sodom and in the antediluvian world, which God destroyed because of their iniquity. (Matthew 24:37-39.) ... – {CD 446.2}

EGW : "All the world will be warned that there is a God who will display His authority as God. His unseen agencies will cause destruction, devastation, and death. All the accumulated riches will be as nothingness.... – {CL 7.4}

EGW : "God has given to men a declaration of His character and of His method of dealing with sin. “The Lord God, merciful and gracious, long-suffering and abundant in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty.” Exodus 34:6, 7. “All the wicked will He destroy.” “The transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.” Psalm 145:20; 37:38. The power and authority of the divine government will be employed to put down rebellion; yet all the manifestations of retributive justice will be perfectly consistent with the character of God as a merciful, long-suffering, benevolent being. – {GC 541.2}

So I agree with the SOP statements you gave, but respectfully looking at the SOP overall, It clearly shows that GOD destroys the wicked,  "The power and authority of the divine government will be employed to put down rebellion; yet all the manifestations of retributive justice will be perfectly consistent with the character of God as a merciful, long-suffering, benevolent being.". What do you think my brother? 

Blessings! 

 

Hey reasoning what book is con? Thanks for the info but the question still remain...semms kind of confusing don't you think?

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