You people have no idea how hard it's been for me to stay off here since my husband decided to come back on again.
I know you'll aim your guns my direction. and YES I did come on as 'heart on fire4god' because I felt so badly for him. I wanted to attempt to bring to mind the seriousness of the attacks being made on my husband. Instead everyone just attacked him harder. He was unaware of my attempt to take some of the fire off him. He actually thought it was someone on his side. (of course I WAS). I've apologized to him since and he's forgiven me.
We will do what we can to help those we love. I felt so badly for him, he was feeling so sad and having similar feelings to what he experienced when he first joined our church and found them to be involved in an illegal deal. By the way, he's in law enforcement. He was slapped down pretty hard when he accidentally discovered it, and brought it to their attention. Now he's attempted to completely start a new relationship with the Adventist church online all to no avail. We both still love God, and with God's grace and strength, Always will regardless how we're treated by the people of the church I was raised in.
It didn't use to be this way, It sure is now. Of course I've never been around anyone who has had such dreams and experiences as he's had before either. But all I know is it happens and he was trying to share. The people in the Adventist church certainly have changed. We will just have to hang on to God and keep our lives to ourselves. There is no one alive we can share with.
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Zithro, personally our credibility is only gone with those who attempted to poke us and drive us into corners. That really doesn't bother us.
If you walk into a sheep fold and start jabbing at the ram, he's going to come out running at you head down, 150 lbs of fury, a very hard set of horns or head that can take a terrible hit, and it's not going to be nice, ( I knew a poor old man killed by his ram), that ends the idea that sheep never fight back, normally ewes don't but rams will if you provoke them. there goes their credit as harmless helpless animals.
We're not animals and we really didn't fight back, but I was attempting to get people to take a second look at their own behavior. YOU KNOW as well as anyone else that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING can be proved ONLINE!!! NOTHING! However being "Adventist online" we certainly didn't expect the hard verbal jabbing and stomping we got when we tried to share.
It happened, nothing we could do would stop it. I don't suppose those who get a thrill out of bad fight will stop. so.... I for one, will just ignore the jabs.
No Joyce, your credibility is gone with anyone who values honesty and truth. Not just people who had questions for you. You lied. We now have no clue what is true from you or Rickey any longer. We thought we knew you. I had even asked Rickey if you would confirm that he was given the victory over the habitual sins that you had concerns about. I asked that because I trusted you and valued your judgement. I do not know how I can value it any longer. Because you lied.
Oh vinny, please don't stone me, or if you must, use jelly beans. or if you must beat me, do it with a wet noodle. You caught me red handed, slick as snail (slobber?), I'm so ......aw whatever....
Feel better now, feel BIG and STRONG, like a HERO!!?
You sure showed everyone what a terror I am. good thing too. I may have almost used that dumb gmail. or not. but at least your a hero now.
Scripture please....When we hold to a standard of Faith, it MUST come from Scripture only.
2 Peter 3:11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells. 14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
1 Peter 5:5 All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because,“God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.” 6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. 7 Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 9 Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
1 Peter 4: 7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be alert and of sober mind so that you may pray. 8 Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. 9Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling. 10 Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms. 11 If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.
1 Peter 3:8 Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble. 9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.
James 5:19 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.
James 1:19 My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, 20 because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires. 21Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you.
Just a few.
My, Deborah, you sound like the diet of vorms, "Martin Luther will you recant your writings?", and like him, I have to say, "I cannot and will not recant, it is not safe for a Christian to speak against one's conscience, here I stand I can do no other".....
But I will repent to those to whom I've done harm. it was never my intention to fool or harm anyone. it was my fullest intention to lay out a factual knowledge for interest and examination, not for branding and accusations.
I invite anyone to look again at the threads that were brought up on the subject with a nonbiased mind and see the actual events that took place.
Apology accepted. =)
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Members Rickey Roden and Joyce Roden have left Adventist Online and removed their comments.
Whilst I appreciate your desire for objectivity, how can this realistically happen when both you and your husband have removed your comments?
Your request seems shall I say redundant -unless you and your husband are able to repost the original comments that were removed.
I don't know how to return the comments, however, I'd like to end this. Now do I have to get off AO again and stay off in order to end the prodding and poking?
I don't know how to put them back on, I just started clicking. I was hurting for my husband, and just wanted off at the time.
please forgive I'm DEFINITELY NOT the most 'site' savvy person around. Dont do well with too much confusion. sorry