Yes but uuumm MFG God tried twice to choose a man BEFORE He gave EGW her visions.
Yes EGW held authority but she was neither arrogant or pushy about it. Like wise we should do the same.
YES Lady EM
the men dont seem to bat a thousand
GOD could have given it to a third man
and wqe see this in biblical history
its always given to someone else cause the firstborn rejects it
so GOD goes somewhere else
it still could have given it to a dude
billions of people on earth at the time and GOD cant find a third dude?
GOD KNOWS THE MEN WOULD REJECT
GOD KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING IN ILLUSTRATION WITH THIS ONE ACT ALONE
GOD KNOWS WHAT HE HAS TO DO TO GET THE MEN TO WAKE UP
AND STILL THEY SLEEP
ok it was one man
sorry got confused oopsie
God gave the prophetic gift to a white man, a black man and then a woman.
There have been women prophets previously, including when there was a male Levitical priesthood.
However, none of this has anything to do with womens' ordination. The argument has never been around whether women can preach or whether women have a role in the spreading of the Gospel.
This issue is solely and only around whether the role of ordained pastor is for men only.
That is absolutly correct.
God can call anyone He wants to, to be a prophet, i.e. a spokesperson for Him. However, this does not give humans that same right. When humans decree that they can change God's requirements for ordination, they are doing just as Satan and Eve did, attempting to be equal with God. Their end will be the same as Satan's will be, the Lake of FIre.
That is an awful price to pay for a little applause by the women today. Plus the blood of those women who are lost becasue these false pastors refused to take a stand for right, will be on their shoulders. Not a pretty picture to look forward to.
Hi Ray I would highly appreciate if you can give us a good definition of an ordained pastor? What are his functions consist of ? and relate the experience of a man pastor's work! It is just a little homework that I requesting you to do as I know you have got the passion to do it and to share with us here. Thanking you SAbrina
Any pastor is to be the shepherd of the flock/church. This is basic and fundamental. As part of that calling, they are to:
This is in brief the work of the pastor. Not all inclusive, but this is the overall picture.
While I know you did not ask for this, however, in this context, let's look at what a woman pastor can do from this list.
So, no woman can in fact fulfill all of the functions of a pastor. The idea that just being a good preacher makes them elgible for ordination is is like saying that a car with only one tire on it is a fully functioning automobile. It takes all of the qualifications to be a pastor, not just one.
The path of ordination starts with being a local elder. The local elder is virtually the same as a pastor. The major difference is that his ordination is only for the local church, while a pastor's ordination is for any church. However, even a local elder's ordination is honored in any other church he may attend, so in fact, there is very little difference, or at least there should only be that.
OK, this is a man made distinction and I'm not sure it can be supported biblically. If it were consistent, then a man should be ordained again if he moves into the conference office, and again if he moves to the Union and again if he moves to the division and to the GC. However, this is not done. Why not? Oh, I know of some of the "reasons" given, but again, I'm not sure that they could stand up to the closest examination. But, that is not something that those pushing for women to be ordained are really concerened about.
In short, the real issue is this.
"Will we do exactly what God has asked us to do, without question or argumentation, just becasue we recognize that He is God and that we love Him supremely?"
It makes no difference what the topic might be. Diet, sex, what beverages we use, marriage, raising children, church discipline, ordination, life work, use of our resources, etc., etc., etc. Will we subordinate our opinions to what God has perscribed? Unless we are really willing to do that, we do not qualify to be ordained, (or in fact even be a Christian) no matter what our gender might be.
It is for sure, that no women who rises to that level of submission to God's revealed will, will seek ordination.
Thank you Ray for the homework you did and share that with us here.
Set an example - by their lives they should be an example of a Christian.
Sorry but these days there have been lot of ordained pastors who are divorced..? are they considered as example?